still can't get used to it

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Linea Recta, Oct 6, 2010.

  1. Linea Recta

    Linea Recta Guest

    Overall I'm very happy with my Partner, but there's one issue I can't get
    used to.
    The electrical window on passenger side goes down as long as I keep pressing
    the button down; when I release the button it stops. So far so good.
    Of course one would expect the same behaviour for the driver window. No way:
    when I touch the button the window starts going down... all the way, and if
    I want it to make it stop somewhere half way I have to panicky and press the
    button "up" again.
    I have been told that nothing is broken, but this seems to be a "feature"...
    Anyway I find this feature very annoying and distracting!

    I suppose there's no easy way to alter this behaviour?


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    Linea Recta, Oct 6, 2010
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  2. Linea Recta

    pastis Guest

    I don't have a Partner, so I don't know if it works, but maybe if you just
    push it shortly it goes all the way down and if you keep it pushed in it
    stops when you release the button?
    I don't know, but to my opinion it should work this way, at least that's the
    way I believe it works in my 307 ;-) Don't shoot me if I'm wrong for my own
    car, after a while you just don't think about it any more...

    Grtz,
    Eric B.
     
    pastis, Oct 6, 2010
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  3. Linea Recta

    Linea Recta Guest


    To make sure I'll check again ASAP, but in any case the left window responds
    differently from the right one. I won't shoot.



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    Linea Recta, Oct 6, 2010
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  4. Linea Recta

    Tinkerer Guest

    That is how automatic windows work. They have been like that on every car I
    have had since the electric ones were introduced. Instructions for my 406
    say to press the switch firmly for automatic open/close or lightly to move
    the window in stages.
     
    Tinkerer, Oct 7, 2010
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  5. Linea Recta

    pastis Guest

    Of course I was wrong ;-)

    On my 307 the switch on the drivers side has two "clicks".
    When you push it halfway you get the first click, in this position the
    window keeps moving as long as you hold the switch.
    When you push further down (or up) you get a second click. You don't have to
    hold this position, the window goes all the way automatically, unless you
    operate the switch a second time.

    Grtz,
    Eric B.
     
    pastis, Oct 7, 2010
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  6. Linea Recta

    Bob Minchin Guest

    On my car (ford) the electric windows operate in a similar way to yours
    but if the battery is disconnected, the windows "forget" their upper and
    lower limits and until they are taught it again (by holding the buttons
    in the fully up and fully down position for several seconds each),
    mechanism works in the way that you want it to. Ie moves for the
    duration of the button push then stops.

    I not saying this will work perfectly on your pug but it might be worth
    a try. Don't forget to check you have your radio code before you try this.
    Let us know if it works please so it can help others
    hth

    Bob
     
    Bob Minchin, Oct 7, 2010
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  7. Linea Recta

    Tinkerer Guest

    On my 406 (and my Honda CRV) you have to re-educate the window for top and
    bottom limits after a battery disconnect.

    Also on the pug and the Honda, the window switch moves incrementally when
    the switch is pressed lightly and automatically when it is pressed firmly.
     
    Tinkerer, Oct 8, 2010
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  8. Linea Recta

    Linea Recta Guest


    Looked up official owners manual, where it says (for drivers window): 2
    possibilities:
    1. Manual mode: Press button. Window stops when button is released.
    2. Automatic mode: Press button for longer time. The window opens or closes
    completely.

    Well, this is exactly what happens. But this is stupid. When I want to open
    halfway, of course I have to press the button for a little longer, which
    errorously gets interpreted as automatic mode.

    I'll let you know if I get the issue resolved some way, but I don't like
    risking losing radio code by experiments.



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    Linea Recta, Oct 9, 2010
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  9. Linea Recta

    Bob Minchin Guest

    Are you saying you don't have the radio code? A pug dealer can tell you
    what it is. You will need it one day when the battery has to be
    disconnected for whatever reason.

    Bob
     
    Bob Minchin, Oct 9, 2010
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  10. Linea Recta

    Tinkerer Guest

    If it has a code. Some Pug radios are paired to the computer and don't
    need to be re-coded as they are protected by dint of not working in any
    other car. The hand book should say which type is fitted.
     
    Tinkerer, Oct 10, 2010
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  11. Linea Recta

    Linea Recta Guest


    I have the code, but not the time to 'tinker'.
    Besides, I remember having the battery changed some time ago, because the
    old one had failed. After this I had to reset the time & date of the clock,
    but the radio required no special attention, it still worked.
    Also, as regards to the electrical windows: nothing has changed after the
    battery change.



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    Linea Recta, Oct 10, 2010
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  12. Linea Recta

    Tinkerer Guest

    So your radio is probably one that is paired to the onbard computer.
    Assuming that Pug windows all work similarly you can refresh their memory
    without having to disconnect the battery. Just hold the button down to
    open the window fully, keeping it pressed for 5 seconds or so after the
    window stops (you might hear a click) and then fully close it, again holding
    the switch for 5 seconds or so. That works on the 406 and it may well be
    the same on the Partner.
     
    Tinkerer, Oct 10, 2010
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  13. Linea Recta

    Linea Recta Guest


    With "refresh memory" you mean I get rid of the automatic mode?


    Gosh, I never dared do that. Are you sure nothing gets broken that way?


    If this works I will be really gratefull!



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    Linea Recta, Oct 10, 2010
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  14. Linea Recta

    Tinkerer Guest

    Regrettably no. You are stuck with automatic on the drivers door, there is
    no way of changing that. I was responding to the other comments about
    refreshing the windows memory of limits after a battery disconnect. I have
    found that it sometimes loses its memory in use and needs to be refreshed.
    I think it happens if the window gives some resistance and fools it into
    thinking it has closed.
    See note above.

    Have you tried using firm pressure on the switch (automatic) and light
    pressure (incremental). That works on the 406 and on my Honda.
     
    Tinkerer, Oct 10, 2010
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  15. Linea Recta

    Linea Recta Guest



    That's not applicable for my car. As I indicated in one of my earlier
    replies mine distinguishes between a short and long button press. I wish
    they'd never "invented" it...



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    Linea Recta, Oct 10, 2010
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  16. Linea Recta

    Bob Minchin Guest

    Plenty of time to moan about it but no time to experiment= no hope

    Bob
     
    Bob Minchin, Oct 10, 2010
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