smoking 406

Discussion in 'Peugeot 406' started by greggig, Nov 20, 2006.

  1. greggig

    greggig Guest

    Hi My 1998 406 2.1 dl smokes on start up (black/grey) and continues to
    smoke up to about 2000rpm around the time the turbo kicks inn, she's
    had new filters new oil new injectors new glo plugs and a flush
    through.oh and blanked off the EGR valve.if it was a petrol car I would
    say she's running to ritch.any one have any ideas as to what the
    problem might be.
     
    greggig, Nov 20, 2006
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  2. greggig

    Chris Guest

    Run it down to a M.O.T place and ask them could they do a test on the
    smoke coming out of the exhaust.
     
    Chris, Nov 20, 2006
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  3. greggig

    greggig Guest

    Yeah done that and i'ts un burnt diesel
     
    greggig, Nov 20, 2006
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    Chris Guest

    so its getting pass the piston rings. might be time to get rid of it or
    put some piston sealer in the bores
     
    Chris, Nov 20, 2006
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  5. greggig

    greggig Guest

    I feel that if it was diesel passing the piston ring then the oil level
    would rise or if it was oil passing the piston rings then the mot
    station would of said the smoke was oil burning. it's un burnt diesel
    not burning oil.
     
    greggig, Nov 20, 2006
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    Brian Guest

    What colour is the smoke? Unburnt fuel is normally white, and is a classic
    symptom of retarded injection timing on a diesel.
    If your smoke is black, then this is too much fuel being burnt. Blue smoke
    is oil.
    Assuming it is black smoke, then the pump has a sensor activated by the
    boost pressure. this gives more fuel when the turbo kicks in. It sounds to
    me that this is stuck open.
    It is a diaphragm on the top of the pump, and there is normally a small pipe
    to it from the intercooler, or somewhere on the inlet manifold or piping.
    Where did you get the work done so far? You would be better trying to speak
    to a diesel injection specialist, look them up in Yellow Pages. I know the
    ones round me, but I don't know where you are.
     
    Brian, Nov 22, 2006
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  7. greggig

    greggig Guest

    Hi
    I've looked for this diaphragm but the only thing on the top of the
    pump is wire that runs into the pump under a plastic cover then runs to
    the ecu unit,Don't know if this helps but the pump is the lucas one.
    I've been advised that maybe The amount of fuel being dellivered needs
    to be weekend off? any idea how this is possible.
     
    greggig, Nov 23, 2006
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  8. greggig

    Brian Guest

    Well there will be some way for the pump to know that boost pressure will
    require more fuel, possibly on the later engines this is handled by the ECU,
    in which case you have little option but to try a diesel injection
    specialist, who should know how to check and adjust.
    The Peugeot dealers only know how to change units.
     
    Brian, Nov 25, 2006
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  9. greggig

    Yuting Wan Guest

    If it burns lubricant, using synthetic oil should stop it or greatly reduce
    it because synthetic oil won't burn and even it burns, it's not black or
    blue colour.
    If the engine is worn, some PTFE base oil additives will work, I've tried it
     
    Yuting Wan, Dec 2, 2006
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  10. greggig

    greggig Guest

    it's not using any oil but ill give anything a go
    Many thanks
     
    greggig, Dec 2, 2006
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