Pug 205 GTI 1.9 / Citroen BX GTI 8v Clutch / Starter Motor

Discussion in 'Peugeot 205' started by AstraVanMan, Dec 7, 2004.

  1. AstraVanMan

    AstraVanMan Guest

    A couple of quick questions:

    1. Will the starter motor from a 205 GTI 1.9 (G reg I think) be the same as
    a BX GTI 8v (H reg) ?

    2. Will the clutch from the same 205 be the same as the one in the BX? And
    don't tell me I'm mad even considering this - I know.

    AstraVanMan, Dec 7, 2004
  2. AstraVanMan

    Chris B Guest

    You're not mad, they should be. They're both XU engines and are pretty much
    identical. I think the 205 has a different air intake system, but that's
    about it.

    Chris B, Dec 7, 2004
  3. AstraVanMan

    G.T Guest

    Not only. The BX GTi (at least the model we had in France) had a XU9J2 (same
    as the Mk1 405 SRi), so 125HP @ 5500RPM when the 205 had the XU9JA (130HP @
    6000 ? Not sure about revs). Perhaps the clutch will be the same. It may
    also depend on the gearbox type (BE1 or BE3).
    G.T, Dec 8, 2004
  4. AstraVanMan

    Carl Gibbs Guest

    Evening Peter, fancy seeing you round here!
    Starter motor is definately the same. And the clutch will almost certainly
    be the same. A lot of the engine/drivetrain will be interchangeable between
    the 2 cars.
    Carl Gibbs, Dec 8, 2004
  5. AstraVanMan

    AstraVanMan Guest

    A couple of quick questions:
    Cheers Carl. One more question then, how long is it likely to take 2
    reasonably mechanically aware people to do the whole job - take apart the
    205 to get the clutch off, put it back together enough so it rolls, then put
    said clutch into the BX?? We'll have a fair amount of tools, and 2 trolley
    jacks (or more) between us.

    AstraVanMan, Dec 8, 2004
  6. AstraVanMan

    Marc Guest

    why on earth would you use a used clutch, the plate is not that
    expensive and a new presuse group is almost certainly nesserary
    and.. do they both have a BE1 or a BE3 gearbox? because a BE1 clutch
    wont fit in a BE3 box

    ik takes three hours to replace a clutch, so lets say six in total.


    Marc, Dec 8, 2004
  7. AstraVanMan

    AstraVanMan Guest

    Cheers Carl. One more question then, how long is it likely to take 2
    The used clutch was blatant penny pinching on my part, and like you say the
    pressure plate (is that what you're referring to?) would ideally be replaced
    anyway, so £60 or so for a clutch kit would be a good idea, and save messing
    about with an old 205. Regarding the gearbox types - that was exactly the
    reason for my post - to find out whether it would fit anyway.
    That's my other reason for asking - phoned up a local Citroen specialist who
    told me that the clutch was an 8 hour job!!

    AstraVanMan, Dec 8, 2004
  8. AstraVanMan

    Carl Gibbs Guest

    As other people said the gearboxed may be different. But, i think i'm right
    in saying, that if reverse is in the same place on both cars (either back
    and right for the latter ones, or up and left for the earlier ones), then
    they're the same gearbox. Even if they're not you may well find they'll

    I've manged to do a 205 clutch in an afternoon when i didnt really know what
    i was doing, by myself, so you should be able to knock it all off in a day
    pretty easily. Incidentally whats happening to the 205 when you've finished
    with it...?

    Also, one little tip, if the GTi gearboxes are anything like my old XS box
    make sure you have some Torx sockets, otherwise you'll be going nowhere!
    Carl Gibbs, Dec 9, 2004
  9. AstraVanMan

    AstraVanMan Guest

    Cheers Carl. One more question then, how long is it likely to take 2
    Dunno, but I'm sure he'd be happy to sell it, or some parts off it, if you
    wanted anything. Anything specific you're after?
    Ah yes, got loads of them now. After having bought an expensive socket rail
    of about 6 1/2" drive ones ages ago from halfords and subsequently lost most
    of them, I spent about £16 on a decent draper set of hex/spline/torx bits -
    not socket bits but the hex-type ones with socket adapters, that come in two
    lengths. Bloody good set!

    AstraVanMan, Dec 9, 2004
  10. AstraVanMan

    Carl Gibbs Guest

    Nothing to major, just bits of the dashboard, possibly the front indicators
    depending what age it is. If you fancy getting rid of a few bits and pieces
    let me know, i'm sure we can com to some sort of deaal!
    Good stuff. I had a set too till someone borowed them (read: stole them!!!)
    Carl Gibbs, Dec 10, 2004
  11. AstraVanMan

    G.T Guest

    Hi Marc,
    It will almost fit. Only the clutch bearing will be different and is
    specific to BE model. I discovered that after my brother had the clutch
    replaced on his '91 205 DTurbo (should be a BE3, so the mechanic with the
    VIN ordered the parts), which has a BE1, indeed (second hand engine,
    originally from a BX TD according to what I've seen (belt-driven vaccum
    pump, and BE1, which shows it's a pre-07/90 engine)), so he had to order
    (and fit) another bearing.
    G.T, Dec 12, 2004
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