Pug 205 GTI 1.9 / Citroen BX GTI 8v Clutch / Starter Motor

A couple of quick questions:

1. Will the starter motor from a 205 GTI 1.9 (G reg I think) be the same as
a BX GTI 8v (H reg) ?

2. Will the clutch from the same 205 be the same as the one in the BX? And
don't tell me I'm mad even considering this - I know.

Peter

 

You're not mad, they should be. They're both XU engines and are pretty much
identical. I think the 205 has a different air intake system, but that's
about it.

Chris.

 

Hi,

Not only. The BX GTi (at least the model we had in France) had a XU9J2 (same
as the Mk1 405 SRi), so 125HP @ 5500RPM when the 205 had the XU9JA (130HP @
6000 ? Not sure about revs). Perhaps the clutch will be the same. It may
also depend on the gearbox type (BE1 or BE3).

 

Evening Peter, fancy seeing you round here!
Starter motor is definately the same. And the clutch will almost certainly
be the same. A lot of the engine/drivetrain will be interchangeable between
the 2 cars.

 

A couple of quick questions:

Cheers Carl. One more question then, how long is it likely to take 2
reasonably mechanically aware people to do the whole job - take apart the
205 to get the clutch off, put it back together enough so it rolls, then put
said clutch into the BX?? We'll have a fair amount of tools, and 2 trolley
jacks (or more) between us.

Peter

 

why on earth would you use a used clutch, the plate is not that
expensive and a new presuse group is almost certainly nesserary
and.. do they both have a BE1 or a BE3 gearbox? because a BE1 clutch
wont fit in a BE3 box

ik takes three hours to replace a clutch, so lets say six in total.

Grrzz

Marc

 

Cheers Carl. One more question then, how long is it likely to take 2

The used clutch was blatant penny pinching on my part, and like you say the
pressure plate (is that what you're referring to?) would ideally be replaced
anyway, so £60 or so for a clutch kit would be a good idea, and save messing
about with an old 205. Regarding the gearbox types - that was exactly the
reason for my post - to find out whether it would fit anyway.

That's my other reason for asking - phoned up a local Citroen specialist who
told me that the clutch was an 8 hour job!!

Peter

 

As other people said the gearboxed may be different. But, i think i'm right
in saying, that if reverse is in the same place on both cars (either back
and right for the latter ones, or up and left for the earlier ones), then
they're the same gearbox. Even if they're not you may well find they'll
fit.

I've manged to do a 205 clutch in an afternoon when i didnt really know what
i was doing, by myself, so you should be able to knock it all off in a day
pretty easily. Incidentally whats happening to the 205 when you've finished
with it...?

Also, one little tip, if the GTi gearboxes are anything like my old XS box
make sure you have some Torx sockets, otherwise you'll be going nowhere!

 

Cheers Carl. One more question then, how long is it likely to take 2

Dunno, but I'm sure he'd be happy to sell it, or some parts off it, if you
wanted anything. Anything specific you're after?

Ah yes, got loads of them now. After having bought an expensive socket rail
of about 6 1/2" drive ones ages ago from halfords and subsequently lost most
of them, I spent about £16 on a decent draper set of hex/spline/torx bits -
not socket bits but the hex-type ones with socket adapters, that come in two
lengths. Bloody good set!

Peter

 

Nothing to major, just bits of the dashboard, possibly the front indicators
depending what age it is. If you fancy getting rid of a few bits and pieces
let me know, i'm sure we can com to some sort of deaal!

Good stuff. I had a set too till someone borowed them (read: stole them!!!)

 

Hi Marc,

It will almost fit. Only the clutch bearing will be different and is
specific to BE model. I discovered that after my brother had the clutch
replaced on his '91 205 DTurbo (should be a BE3, so the mechanic with the
VIN ordered the parts), which has a BE1, indeed (second hand engine,
originally from a BX TD according to what I've seen (belt-driven vaccum
pump, and BE1, which shows it's a pre-07/90 engine)), so he had to order
(and fit) another bearing.