Peugeot 206SW 1.4 HDi - When to change cambelt?

Discussion in 'Peugeot 206' started by Contax, Aug 25, 2009.

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    Contax Guest

    6 years old next month, 24K miles, only gets light use mostly on 5 t
    10 mile trips to shops, does about 1,200 miles a year
    When should cam belt be changed & what should it cost about
    Main Dealer service reception said with my use every 20 years, cos
    £370
    Their mechanic recharging my air con looked at alternator belt an
    said if that is original belt (it is) it's as new so cambelt shoul
    be OK for a bit
    Nationwide Autoservices computer says change at 144K miles or 1
    years
    Others have said it should be done now and they have ha
    idler/tensioner go at 23K miles
    Am I living on borrowed time or has it not reached recommende
    period/miles
    Other than fuel gauge started sticking last month, recharged air co
    this year, radio/CD changed warranty at 29 months, BSI & EC
    firmware updated due to couple of minor things under warant
    (transponder misread, trip meter blobbed)
    I am happy with the car as my mobility scooter loads in it easily wit
    ramps & don't have to remove any bits just fold seat & tiller
     
    Contax, Aug 25, 2009
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    Charlie+ Guest

    On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 23:15:28 -0500,
    -spam.invalid (Contax) wrote as underneath my
    scribble :

    The belt you can see under the bonnet is the Auxiliary Belt not the cam
    belt. I think you need to check your actual engine with a Peugeot service
    department computer using the VIN number.
    My Hdi 1.4 206SE says in the user manual that came with it that the cambelt
    needs changing at about 36000 miles as I recall - but the actual spec for
    the installed engine (8HXF) is 144,000 miles or 10 years. It is a major
    overhaul as the engine is so tightly fitted. The main agent I asked
    estimated about £650 including a service. I think it will be a question at
    that stage of "is it worth doing" probably cost over £1000 by then, and
    maybe a strategy will be to wait till the engine destroys itself then bin
    the car - might take 20 years or so with an unpushed engine!
    Charlie+
     
    Charlie+, Aug 25, 2009
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    Ross Herbert Guest

    :6 years old next month, 24K miles, only gets light use mostly on 5 to
    :10 mile trips to shops, does about 1,200 miles a year.
    :When should cam belt be changed & what should it cost about?
    :Main Dealer service reception said with my use every 20 years, cost
    :£370.

    This page gives a good idea of timing belt change periods for Peugeot engines.
    You will need to know which engine you have though.
    http://www.peugeotlogic.com/workshop/base/workshop.htm

    Peugeot always cover their backside (as do all vehicle manufacturers) by adding
    a rider following the change period statement, ie. "or whichever comes first".
    This means that even if you didn't take your 206SW out of the garage in the
    stated time period, you should still change the belt when that time period had
    expired.
     
    Ross Herbert, Aug 28, 2009
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    lenny109 Guest

    Cam belt on my 307 HDi 1.6 2004 went at 80,000 and caused £2000 worth of
    damage. The computer says that model cam belt doesn't need changing until
    120,000. Nobody mentions that the water pump might need changing or at least
    checking! I think that is what went wrong and caused the CAM belt to break.
     
    lenny109, Oct 26, 2009
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    Charlie+ Guest

    Expensive! and interesting, do you know the failure mode for the coolant
    pump? Presumably a bearing failure and was there any prior indication at
    all of the impending doom?! Was the coolant as original?
    I doubt if there are any meaningful checks that can be done on an in situ
    water pump or indeed on the other small but critical items on the timing
    belt like the idler and tensioner wheels - failure of any one of which could
    lead to an engine wreck similar to yours.
     
    Charlie+, Oct 27, 2009
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    Bob Minchin Guest

    My 405 1.8i water pump failed recently. Symptom was water loss and on
    removal, the bearing was badly worn/loose and the timing belt was quite
    slack but had not let go thankfully. 90,000 miles since Jan 1995

    Not really what I had planned for a Saturday but the job was fairly easy
    but very little room to work in.

    Bob
     
    Bob Minchin, Oct 27, 2009
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    Charlie+ Guest

    snip
    Bob - well spotted - and the leak saved you a pile of grief! No rattling
    or screeching then?
    Im not looking forward to my 206 1.4 hdi going the same journey - I wont get
    away without a couple of days graft I think, so tight and needs one to make
    a couple of special pullers etc I believe. Meantime I will renew the
    coolant to ontime and onspec - hoping to ward off the evil spirit!
    Charlie+
     
    Charlie+, Oct 29, 2009
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    Bob Minchin Guest

    No, there was no screech just significant water loss - 1 litre over 20
    odd miles but only when under pressure.
    I did not need a puller but mine was a petrol engine. You will need
    locking pins for the cam and crank. Easy if you have a lathe (I do!)
    otherwise its a case of finding something to fit. Mine was 10mm diam
    crank and 8mm diam for the cam without any shoulders (Haynes manual was
    wrong here - all too often find errors these days!)

    If your engine will be so difficult to do it might be worth looking for
    an independent Pug specialist with a decent hourly rate. I tend to trust
    these guys more than official agents.

    Good Luck

    Bob
     
    Bob Minchin, Oct 29, 2009
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