Peugeot 205 Gear box oil fill plug

Discussion in 'Peugeot 205' started by Bert Wieberdink, Jun 13, 2004.

  1. Does anybody know exactly where the gearbox oil fill plug can bve found.
    I know it is behind the front left wheel, but I still cannot find it.

    BG

    Ide
     
    Bert Wieberdink, Jun 13, 2004
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  2. btw I have a Peugeot 205 XE 1.1 from 1986
     
    Bert Wieberdink, Jun 13, 2004
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    Nigel Guest

    Hmmm, you may have the early one. I think they changed in '88. If I'm
    right, it's on the front of the gearbox, pointing slightly upward
    toward the radiator, and is a recessed square drive, same as the sump
    plug. It is NOT a level plug, only a filler. If you suspect the level
    is low, you should drain it completely and then add 2 litres of engine
    oil.
     
    Nigel, Jun 14, 2004
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    Phil Cook Guest

    It depends which box the OP has. The above is for the BE 1/5 as
    fitted to the 1500 (XU5J engine)

    According to my sources the 1100 (XW7 engine) has either the BH 3/4 or
    BH 3/5 box and that uses a common oil supply the engine.
     
    Phil Cook, Jun 14, 2004
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  5. Bert Wieberdink

    G.T Guest

    Hi,
    Exactly. That's one of the XW (Pug 104) series features.
     
    G.T, Jun 15, 2004
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    Nigel Guest

    Yes quite true. So when did the TU engine come into production? That
    used the MA box and that had the filler on the end. The only other
    1100 engine was the old Simca type, and I don't recall seeing them
    fitted to a 205.
     
    Nigel, Jun 15, 2004
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  7. Bert Wieberdink

    Phil Cook Guest

    The TU engine and MA gearbox were introduced in 1988.
     
    Phil Cook, Jun 16, 2004
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    Mindwipe Guest

    thought it was 1.4 litres but correct me if i'm wrong nigel
     
    Mindwipe, Jun 16, 2004
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  9. Bert Wieberdink

    Nigel Guest

    Definitely 2 litres. All the BE1 & BE3 gearboxes have 2 litres. They
    just changed from engine oil to BV oil around 1988 on the BE1s.
     
    Nigel, Jun 17, 2004
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  10. Bert Wieberdink

    Mindwipe Guest

    its bugging me now.... wonder where i got 1.4 litres from
     
    Mindwipe, Jun 18, 2004
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  11. Bert Wieberdink

    Nigel Guest

    Dunno of any gearbox with 1.4 litre capacity. And I go back quite a
    few years. :))
     
    Nigel, Jun 19, 2004
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    G.T Guest

    Hi there,
    From old sources, Jeff ! I'll explain later.
    Not enough ! Reporting to my technical workbook about 205D's, first specs
    (83-86, IIRC) give :
    - oil change every 45,000km or 2 years if the cars runs less than
    10,000km/yr ;
    - oil type : 10W40 ;
    - Capacity : 1.4l.
    Needless to say they are BE1s.
    No change up to '87 models (included).
    From '88 models, lifetime lubrication (spelling ?) with 75W80 oil, 2l.
    We all know what means lifetime, anyway I guess an oil change every
    100,000km isn't a bad thing.

    You should have a French source :)
     
    G.T, Jun 19, 2004
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    Nigel Guest

    I went in to work today (on my day off!!!) and checked with my
    technical circulars of the period. In 85 Peugeot decided to increase
    the capacity of the BE1 gearbox from 1.5 (in this country) to 2
    litres. I also noted they did the same a couple of years later to the
    Talbot Express gearbox--from 1.8 to 2l.
     
    Nigel, Jun 20, 2004
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    G.T Guest

    Hi,
    Oh, I hope it wasn't *just* for the BE oil capacities :)
    I thought it was later, here. My technical data (the well-known (here) RTA)
    may well be wrong on some evolutions.
    Talbot Express, it says something to me... Wasn't that a van, similar to
    C25s, J5s and Ducato's ?
     
    G.T, Jun 20, 2004
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  15. Bert Wieberdink

    Nigel Guest

    No, not quite. Had to pick up some tools to do some work on my car
    (just for a change!!)
    Yeah. It was the J5 on the continent. Has now evolved into the Boxer.
    I do believe they are mostly made in Spain (the Express/J5 was) and
    nobody I know likes working on them.
     
    Nigel, Jun 20, 2004
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    Mindwipe Guest

    thought i was losing it for a while there
     
    Mindwipe, Jun 20, 2004
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  17. Bert Wieberdink

    G.T Guest

    Hello,
    What brand ? Pug or Talbot ? I guess Talbot definitively disappeared, but
    I've not been in UK for a while...
    Nope, Val di Sangro, Italy, by a company called SEVEL, owned at 50% by Fiat
    & 50% by PSA.
    Eeerrrrr... Same here :) Bulletproof engines, but rusty bodykits (esp.
    first models, a friend of mine has a '82 C25, sure it is !).
     
    G.T, Jun 21, 2004
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    Nigel Guest

    Talbot Express, Peugeot J5, Peugeot Boxer.
    Buletproof?? Well, maybe the petrol models, engines straight out of
    the 505, the diesels were from Citroen, and were a converted petrol
    type of 2.5 litres. There was no specific time for changing the
    cambelts (there were two--one did the fuel pump only) and if they
    snapped it was extremely difficult to get the engine back into the
    correct timing position to fit the new belts. It was done by the
    "drop a valve onto the piston" method and using dial gauges and was a
    pain in the backside to do.

    I agree about the body rusting, although the chassis seemed to hold
    out ok for rust.
     
    Nigel, Jun 22, 2004
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  19. Bert Wieberdink

    G.T Guest

    Hello,
    True, but with some differences.
    One for "half-over head" camshaft, the other for pump. The CX had a "gear
    cascade" (spelling / term ?) timing.
    True, too.
    Yeah, the valve dropping ! I forgot this point (keep in mind I'm not a
    mechanic), and I always thought it was a bit "exotic" - was the same method
    on the CX. Mmmmm... a bit of Citro├źn methods on this engine :)
    Engine access wasn't that good (even if you don't often need to access them
    with correct servicing), because of its position (low low behind bonnet).
    But the C25 / J5 / Talbot Express had real qualities instead, good
    performance, quite comfy (considering it's a van), silencious. And the Turbo
    version which made them even faster :)

    My point is, these vans came with plenty of qualities & some defaults, but
    were representing all what Renault missed with their (crappy) Trafic.
     
    G.T, Jun 24, 2004
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