Fuel vapour control failure

[MartinManor]

I have a 65 plate 308 1.2 puretech 130. There's a failure with the system that is supposed to control the escape of fuel vapour from the fuel tank. Some device fitted inside of or integral to the fuel tank has failed and instead of only allowed vapour to pass, it's now allow liquid petrol to pass as well. This only happens when the tank is more than about 2/3rds full. The fuel has now filled up the carbon filter intended for vapour only, and enters the pipe running to the inlet manifold which is intended to burn off any vapour only. Thi excessive fuel cause rough running and can stall the engine occasionally.
Iv been managing this for some time by only filling the tank to half full. The fault was diagnosed in a Peugeot main dealer who has give a £2000 ballpark figure to "fix" the problem as they say the vapour separating device cannot be replaced and they want to replace everything from the tank, fuel lines, carbon canister, etc, etc.
Their mechanic said he sees maybe a couple of cars with this problem in a year. Surely there has to be a more sensible fix. Main dealers just like to replace things. There has to be a proper engineer out there who's worked out a better solution. Does anyone know where this can sensibly be resolved?

 

[John n]

I have a 65 plate 308 1.2 puretech 130. There's a failure with the system that is supposed to control the escape of fuel vapour from the fuel tank. Some device fitted inside of or integral to the fuel tank has failed and instead of only allowed vapour to pass, it's now allow liquid petrol to pass as well. This only happens when the tank is more than about 2/3rds full. The fuel has now filled up the carbon filter intended for vapour only, and enters the pipe running to the inlet manifold which is intended to burn off any vapour only. Thi excessive fuel cause rough running and can stall the engine occasionally.
Iv been managing this for some time by only filling the tank to half full. The fault was diagnosed in a Peugeot main dealer who has give a £2000 ballpark figure to "fix" the problem as they say the vapour separating device cannot be replaced and they want to replace everything from the tank, fuel lines, carbon canister, etc, etc.
Their mechanic said he sees maybe a couple of cars with this problem in a year. Surely there has to be a more sensible fix. Main dealers just like to replace things. There has to be a proper engineer out there who's worked out a better solution. Does anyone know where this can sensibly be resolved?

Hi martin, did u resolve this issue? I have the same. Im considering blocking off the old vapour valves in the tank and fitting aftermarket ones .

 

[Brian3373]

I appear to have same issue on 2016 308 1.2 Puretech, dealer says fuel tank and charcoal canister needs replacing.
My question, did this work cure your issues?

 

[John n]

I appear to have same issue on 2016 308 1.2 Puretech, dealer says fuel tank and charcoal canister needs replacing.
My question, did this work cure your issues?

Hi Brian, it would solve the issue as it is one of the two vent valves that has failed in the top of the tank. These are not replaceable. The carbon canister may or may not need changing. The problem is that despite knowing it's an issue Peugeot won't help with anything as my car is over their goodwill period. So they want to charge me 1200 just for parts.
I have just been using half the tank but am going to fit an aftermarket fuel/vapour separator soon slightly higher than the tank above the rear axle. I'm hoping this will solve the problem allowing fuel to drain back to the tank and only vapour to reach the carbon canister.
John

 

[John n]

Hi Brian, it would solve the issue as it is one of the two vent valves that has failed in the top of the tank. These are not replaceable. The carbon canister may or may not need changing. The problem is that despite knowing it's an issue Peugeot won't help with anything as my car is over their goodwill period. So they want to charge me 1200 just for parts.
I have just been using half the tank but am going to fit an aftermarket fuel/vapour separator soon slightly higher than the tank above the rear axle. I'm hoping this will solve the problem allowing fuel to drain back to the tank and only vapour to reach the carbon canister. If they are offering to pay snap their hand off!! I love my car but this is a very silly and ridiculously expensive problem. They know that it's a known failure too.
John

 

[Brian3373]

Hi Brian, it would solve the issue as it is one of the two vent valves that has failed in the top of the tank. These are not replaceable. The carbon canister may or may not need changing. The problem is that despite knowing it's an issue Peugeot won't help with anything as my car is over their goodwill period. So they want to charge me 1200 just for parts.
I have just been using half the tank but am going to fit an aftermarket fuel/vapour separator soon slightly higher than the tank above the rear axle. I'm hoping this will solve the problem allowing fuel to drain back to the tank and only vapour to reach the carbon canister.
John

 

[Brian3373]

Thank you for coming back to me.
I've got mine booked in for new tank, fuel absorber and oil/filter change.
Eye watering £2100.
Couldn't trust the car, so needed doing.
Please let me know how you get on with after market valves.

Mine has been playing up until around quarter of a tank.

 

[Andy0751]

Thank you for coming back to me.
I've got mine booked in for new tank, fuel absorber and oil/filter change.
Eye watering £2100.
Couldn't trust the car, so needed doing.
Please let me know how you get on with after market valves.

Mine has been playing up until around quarter of a tank.

Hi
Grandland x with a puretech engine,
After reading all these posts my Vauxhall is doing similar things, changing the fuel tank sort your issues?
Thanks

 

[Brian3373]

My 308 goes to main dealer tomorrow 31st May... Will advise.

 

[Brian3373]

Seems OK so far, tanked it up, done some short trips... just need some warm and cold days to see how it affects the vapour situation.

 

[Brian3373]

6 days later, multiple trips, warm & cool temperatures, around 200miles total driven and all seems good.

 

[Andy0751]

6 days later, multiple trips, warm & cool temperatures, around 200miles total driven and all seems good.[/

6 days later, multiple trips, warm & cool temperatures, around 200miles total driven and all seems good.

Since reading about this issue I’ve been keeping my Vauxhall below 3/4 of a tank, seems to be running ok.

 

[CanaryinManc]

Further to Brian 3373's posts, my 2017 308 Puretech SW 1.2 petrol, 41k miles, has exactly the same issue and is currently having its fuel tank/pump assembly replaced by the dealer with an additional engine oil and filter change, 3 months after its last service, at the eye-watering total cost of £1,951.

 

[CanaryinManc]

Sorry, cost wrong in above post. Final total was £2,401!.

 

[Piiter_007]

Hello, i found out cheap way to repair it.
if you still need help with it, tel me.

 

[Piiter_007]

1. need to plug off tube from vapor vent from tank to carbon filter
2. blind this tube from tank

3. under fuel filler there is two tube (thicker for fuel fill and thinner for vapor during tanking)
4. cut thinner tube somewhere between mark 1 and 2

5. insert T-part or Y-part pipe, peace of tube and on the end put check valve
6. valve should be torned to let pressure comes out from the tank and avoid to let in some dust or so.

 

[Piiter_007]

Here is YT video.