Fuel consumption

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Neil, Jan 25, 2006.

  1. Neil

    Neil Guest

    Peugeot 406 HDI 1.9, 90bhp, 2002.

    I get about 33 mpg to/from work, town driving. I thought the mileage
    would be higher - what consumption figures do the rest of you get for
    this type of car? Is there anything wrong with mine?

    Neil.
     
    Neil, Jan 25, 2006
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  2. Neil

    davek Guest

    I get that towing a caravan with a Xantia (same engine).
    Have power boosted it by Eastcoast Racing and it still returns 48mpg on a
    run and 44 on mainly town work.
    Depends what distances you're driving, sitting in traffic jams or running
    with gentle throttle.
    All filters clean and correct oil changed as per book?
    Dave.
     
    davek, Jan 25, 2006
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  3. Neil

    ogglet Guest

    I used to get 40mpg winter 43mpg summer out of mine Town work or motorway
    didn't make any difference.

    ogglet
     
    ogglet, Jan 25, 2006
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  4. Neil

    Stuart Gray Guest

    Are you sure you are doing your sums right? If so, check for binding
    brakes, fuel leaks etc. That does seem awfully low. A mate of mine has one
    and claims to do @ 50 mpg on mixed motorway/town driving.
     
    Stuart Gray, Jan 25, 2006
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  5. Neil

    mal Guest

    I have averaged to press 50.4 mph over 17904 miles and I count it hard
    driving taxi kids to school on contract, 2002 406 estate 90 engine oil
    change every eight thou, service after two oil changes

    Malc
     
    mal, Jan 25, 2006
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  6. Neil

    Brian Guest

    It very much depends on the distance. They are very heavy on fuel for the
    first couple of miles, so if this is the sort of journey you commonly make,
    it might explain.
    Try it on a long run.
     
    Brian, Jan 26, 2006
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  7. Neil

    Neil Guest

    Not done any sums - I'm going by the computer readout. (I can guess the
    response I'm going to get!!)

    Neil.
     
    Neil, Jan 26, 2006
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  8. Neil

    Stuart Gray Guest

    :)
    Well, you could always do the brim the tank, zero the trip mileage, fill up
    the nearly empty tank and DO SOME SUMS !!!!!
    Just to confirm the computer is correct.
     
    Stuart Gray, Jan 26, 2006
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  9. Neil

    Brian Guest

    I find the computer readout fairly useless. What I particularly like, is
    when I fill up, only about half a mile from home usually, the readout tells
    me that I can do about 480 miles until the next refuel. A hundred miles
    later (in one journey) and it tells me that I can now do 520 miles.....
    I just wish it would carry on like that - the further you travel, the longer
    it will be until you have to refuel.

    Oh, and I do know why, before 25 people explain.

    What it does show is that if you continually only do short journeys, then
    you will use a lot of fuel.
     
    Brian, Jan 26, 2006
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  10. Neil

    Hugo Nebula Guest

    Round about the same from my 307 2.0HDi (110bhp) on stop-start
    commuting into and site visits around Manchester.
    Yes, it's a Peugeot.
     
    Hugo Nebula, Jan 27, 2006
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    Martin Dixon Guest

    In message <gpUBf.110117$>
    I was once picked up in one of those which was used as a taxi. I got
    into discussing fuel consumption with the driver, comparing it with my
    407 (the driver was thinking of replacing his car with a 407). He was
    getting a pretty steady 47mpg, but as an airport taxi it was mostly
    used on motorways. I did notice that he drove at a steady 70mph all
    the time though.

    But I think the 407 9which I have with the 136bhp version is much the
    same. With a cold engine the fuel consumption is very high, so with a
    lot of short journeys it does badly. But if I drive at a steady 50mph
    in 6th gear, I can get spectacularly good mileage. I once saw 117mpg
    over 4 miles through motorway roadworks (but it was slightly downhill
    most of the way). 30MPG would be more typical with short journeys
    around town.

    Martin
     
    Martin Dixon, Jan 27, 2006
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  12. Neil

    Nom Guest

    But diesel engine economy isn't affected by engine temperature - unlike
    petrol engines, they don't use more fuel when cold.
     
    Nom, Feb 13, 2006
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  13. Neil

    Martin Dixon Guest

    In message <>
    Well, that certainly isn't my experience. It's true that I don't
    suffer the loss of power with a cold engine that happens with petrol
    engines, but when you think about it, the energy to heat up the engine
    block, oil and coolant to working temperature must come from burning
    fuel, even with a diesel.

    I would also suggest that diesel engines take longer to fully warm up,
    but they drive just a well when cold.

    Martin
     
    Martin Dixon, Feb 14, 2006
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    Chris Hodges Guest

    But if this is waste heat that won't matter.
    On many diesels there's simply more to heat up - heavier block, bigger
    engine for the size of car, etc.
     
    Chris Hodges, Feb 14, 2006
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    Rob Jones Guest

    The reason a diesel takes longer to warm up is that they are are much more
    efficient than petrol and therefore less fuel burnt means less thermo
    dynamic heat being produced.
    Petrol in a cold engine is at a much higher ratio than when its at normal
    running temperature therefore more fuel in more heat out... simple physics
    really


    Rob J

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    Rob Jones, Feb 14, 2006
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  16. Neil

    Nom Guest

    Well, that's how it is :)

    I imagine that your journeys with a cold engine, are fairly short stop-start
    trips through town or whatever. It's this continuous accelerating and
    braking that ruins your economy - if you took your car for a trip up the
    motorway, you'd find it consumed almost exactly the same amount of fuel
    whether the engine was hot or cold.
    Ah, but that exact same heat is still being produced once your engine is
    warm ! The "heating power" is always being used - it doesn't just cease once
    the engine is warm :)
    That's because they're more efficient than Petrol engines.
     
    Nom, Feb 15, 2006
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