Fitting Cruise Control to 307 D-Turbo

Discussion in 'Peugeot 307' started by J. D., May 20, 2006.

  1. J. D.

    J. D. Guest

    Hi All,

    I have a late 2002, Peugeot 307 D-Turbo, but it wasn't fitted with
    cruise control at birth. I am enquiring at my local dealer if it is
    possible to fit it, I've been told yes it is, but they are really
    dragging their heals about giving me a cost and date to fit.

    As far as I'm aware, it's just a case of plugging in a cruise control
    stalk ino to the COM2000, and enabling it in the B.S.I. Not exactly
    hard is it!!!???

    The one question I have is, how can I tell if my model has the brake
    and clutch switches fitted already, I don't know where exactly I'm
    supposed to be looking exactly - any advise as to what I should be
    looking for would be GREATLY appreciated.

    (I had a 307 Rapier Diesel before, and it wasn't possible to fit as the
    wiring for the switches physically didn't exist, but it was never an
    option on that model, I hope that isn't the case with my D-Turbo, but
    as it was an option the wiring should be there???)

    Thanks for your help!

    J. D.
     
    J. D., May 20, 2006
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  2. J. D.

    Brian Guest

    When I enquired of Peugeot about fitting CC to my 2002 SW Hdi, I was told it
    was not possible.
    However, I do seem to have the switches on the clutch etc, they are clearly
    visible provided you get your head on the floor, and feet out of the driver
    window!
    The bit of wiring which is not there is that for the CC stalk.
     
    Brian, May 20, 2006
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  3. J. D.

    nigel Guest

    It is, for both cars, just a case of installing a switch into the Comm
    and configuring it to the BSI via the Diagtool at your dealer. Should
    take no more than half an hour.
    The brake switch is already there and on most diesels there is also a
    clutch switch
    However be careful which switch you get fitted. There are two--one
    with a speed limiter and one without. You may not be able to have the
    speed limiting option in your car, so there is no point getting the
    switch with this on. Your dealer should be able to find out via Laser.
     
    nigel, May 21, 2006
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  4. J. D.

    tricky4000 Guest

    I would like to add a comment about Peugeot's cruise control. I too
    have a 2003 307 and I have owned many cars with cruise control. The
    Peugeot cruise is the worst from them all. Its very jerky and you
    can't cruise at slower speeds, like 60km p/h. The cruise will have you
    sitting on 68 instead. That's fine if you like "living on the edge",
    but here in Australia, our road rules are so tough that even that kind
    of speed is enough to land you an expensive road fine. I also find
    that when you hit the accelerate button, the cruise will plant the
    accelerator causing it to drop down gears and speed off. Not exactly
    smooth. Feels like cruise I had installed in a 1983 Holden Commodre,
    which is an Australian version of an Opel model from about that same
    era in Europe. My suggestion is, don't waste your money.
     
    tricky4000, May 21, 2006
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  5. J. D.

    Brian Guest

    Well, I asked my dealer in the UK, and they were totally confused by the
    request, clearly knew nothing about it.
    As I previously said, I then asked Peugeot UK and the reply from them
    eventually was that it was never possible to retro-fit cruise control.
    (This was after they suggested that I should pay to use their information
    system by the way - which I did not).
    So much for Peugeot customer services then.
     
    Brian, May 26, 2006
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  6. J. D.

    nigel Guest

    If youi let me hve your VIN number I'll see what I can find out at
    work, though it won't be until Tuesday now.
     
    nigel, May 26, 2006
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  7. J. D.

    J. D. Guest

    Thanks all for your help so far, All these answers have been an
    interesting read.

    Nigel - I have sent you my VIN info by email.

    Thanks All.
     
    J. D., May 27, 2006
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  8. J. D.

    nigel Guest

    The email address on here is not a valid one! To the first two letters
    add the following.

    br25753. The rest is the same (after the @)
     
    nigel, May 27, 2006
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  9. J. D.

    J. D. Guest

    D'oh! You should have mail now.
     
    J. D., May 27, 2006
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  10. J. D.

    Chris Guest

    what??? i all ways have mail..
     
    Chris, May 27, 2006
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  11. J. D.

    nigel Guest

    I have it. Two things. You have a "funny" email address showing on the
    email I have. Is that correct? When I delve deeper I can see another
    one from BTInternet. Should I reply to that one?

    Also you say your 307 is a 110, but your VIN says it is a 90. Hmmm?

    Anyway I'll see what I can find out about your cruise control.
     
    nigel, May 28, 2006
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  12. J. D.

    J. D. Guest

    My email address (Though unrelated to this subject!) is my new domain
    name I'm setting up, I'm currently phasing out my old domain and using
    it as a separate email account for open communications (news groups,
    newsletters etc...) My new "funny" domain name is what I use
    personally. Yes, BTInternet is my provider, but I don't use that
    address openly, it saves me the hassle of telling people that I've
    changed ISP's etc, I only have to update my domain settings if and when
    I move ISP. (And with BT at the rate they're going at, that won't be
    long!) - I would prefer a responce to the reply address attached to the
    email I sent you - Thanks.

    The business of my car being a 90bhp instead of a 110bhp, I agree, I
    have done some investigation today, and even though ALL my purchase
    invoices and advert for the car clearly state 110bhp, I agree it's a
    90bhp. (RHYB = 90bhp, RHSB = 110bhp ????) - I shall be challenging my
    dealer on tuesday, as this is the final straw with them. I am sick to
    the back teeth with them - I can roll out a whole essay about what they
    haven't done.

    Thanks for alerting to me to that fact. :)

    This leads me to another question, did Peugeot make a 90bhp D-Turbo? -
    Because my car has the specification of one, leather seats, climate,
    folding mirrors, alarm, 5 cd stacker, trip info computer etc etc... (My
    V5 states the car is a 307 D Turbo HDI, but doesn't mention bhp.)

    Oh how I'm going to enjoy presenting this to my dealer - because I
    clearly wanted to purchase a 110bhp, not 90bhp.

    You're a very sharp person when it comes to detail! - A handy person to
    be in contact with.

    I look forward to your responce.
     
    J. D., May 28, 2006
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    nigel Guest

    With regards your car. It is definitely 90BHP--RHY. RHZ is 110BHP,
    and RHS is 110BHP with particle filter (FAP).

    I don't know for sure whether they did a 90BHP D-Turbo, but maybe the
    VIN will tell me.

    Thanks for the compliment. I don't know everything of course. I am not
    a master tech. But I have been with Peugeot since they took over from
    Chrysler in '78, and 5 years with Rootes products before that. I
    really don't want to be a master tech either. Too much hassle these
    days. I'm quite happy to be a senior tech. I can still earn proper
    money doing services etc and still do a little diagnostic work.

    Good luck with your dealer. They obviously messed up if all the
    paperwork says 110BHP. I wonder if it was a misbuild--it has happened
    in the past. Although if it was, I don't see why the VIN would be RHY.

    Catch you Tuesday evening, all being well!!
     
    nigel, May 29, 2006
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    nigel.glover Guest

    OK this is what I gleaned today. Your car is down as an XSI HDI 90.
    The general consensus of opinion here is that yes you can fit cruise
    control. You just need to fit the switch, cut out the shroud to fit
    the switch and then configure the BSI and engine ECU to recognise it.
    There was one MT who though you may need a separate brake switch, but
    another said it should work off the one that does your brake lights.
    You could try to look up there and see whether there is an unused
    connector around the pedal area.

    There is no definitive answer I'm afraid. The switch is around £28 +
    VAT. Part number I have is 6239NK, which is without a speed limiter.
     
    nigel.glover, May 30, 2006
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  15. J. D.

    J. D. Guest

    Thanks ever so much for looking into this for me, I enquired with
    Peugeot today as to what they thought the car was and they don't have
    it listed on the UK databases, VRM or VIN no... They've suggested it
    was an imported car, not controlled by Peugeot themselves. I tried
    another local Peugeot dealer and they don't have it listed either. But,
    you've helped me out no end!

    It's great to have found someone that *knows* what they're talking
    about!
     
    J. D., May 30, 2006
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  16. J. D.

    nigel Guest

    I don't know what database they used, but I used Laser which is tied
    in with every car Peugeot made after1993, and I had no trouble
    locating it. Shouldn't matter if it is an import or not.

    Today we had in a 02 HDI--not quite as high a spec as yours. I had a
    look around the brake pedal, and had a chat with another of our MTs,
    and this is our conclusion.
    This car had the normal brake light switch and next to it is a empty
    hole. Tied up to the wiring of the brake light switch was a red
    connector, not doing anything. Now, he believes if there is a red
    connector there it must be connected to a seperate switch, which is
    also red, to make the cruise control work. That is for the earlier
    vehicles. The later ones did not have the other hole and no red
    connector available either. In this case the BSI gets the information
    from the brake light switch.
    So, have a look up in the passenger footwell at the switch arrangement
    you have. If there is a red connector free up there you will need a
    red switch and a bush to fit it into the hole. Then a CC switch for
    the Comm 2000, and then get it configured to the BSI, ECU, instrument
    panel and MFD. Being a diesel you will have a clutch switch fitted (I
    hope).
     
    nigel, May 31, 2006
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