Build An Attachment For Gas Engines To Use Water For Fuel

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by peblqmycwoej, Jun 2, 2007.

  1. peblqmycwoej

    peblqmycwoej Guest

    Now you can run any vehicle on FREE energy! The HydroStar can power
    your engine with the incredible energy of hydrogen, natures' perfect
    fuel. It's more powerful than gas, but it's trapped in every drop of
    water. And only the HydroStar can efficiently free hydrogen's potent
    energy!
    The HyTronics module is the closely guarded secret behind the success
    of the HydroStar. A major breakthrough in electronics technology lead
    to development of the HyTronics circuitry. Closely controlled high-
    energy pulses of electrical power, of precise frequency and duration,
    are the trademarks of the HyTronics module.
    http://waterfuelafo.blogspot.com/#
     
    peblqmycwoej, Jun 2, 2007
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  2. I beg to point out that you are wrong. Try running a diesel on it!
     
    Keith Willcocks, Jun 2, 2007
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  3. I thought this scam died a death ages ago?
     
    Raspberry Ripple, Jun 2, 2007
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    Chrs Guest

    Water and diesel dont mix or does it ?i got told it dont.
     
    Chrs, Jun 2, 2007
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  5. peblqmycwoej

    djimbo Guest

    I think the bottom line here is that while Hydrogen & Oxygen, which
    constitutes water, actually sounds like a dangerously explosive mixture,
    the energy required to seperate them to a usable/burnable form, is actually
    greater than the energy you would get back from their combustion.... Energy
    out = (Energy in - Losses in conversion)
    All these magic/secret/hocus pokus methods manage to fool some of the people
    some of the time because of the their freeing Hydrogen argument without
    explanation.
    (Or some technobabble B.S about high energy electrical pulses anyway)

    All you really need is cold fusion, perhaps that's their secret ;-)

    I liked the one about putting a magnet next to your fuel line, aligning all
    the fuel molecules causing your engine to be more efficient more than this
    one, it gave me a bigger laugh anyway.

    Djimbo
     
    djimbo, Jun 3, 2007
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  6. Forty years ago when I drove a big diesel Post Office van the inspector
    filled it for me while I was at lunch. When it started running like a
    tractor I pulled into the workshops where the chief mechanic informed me in
    no uncertain terms that it was not a f-----g two stroke. Said inspector
    was extremely embarrassed, but not as embarrassed as he was two days later
    when he took the nozzle down from the top of the petrol pump and put it into
    a van to fill it and then proceeded to turn the handle (they were manually
    operated) on the diesel pump. He was standing underneath the diesel
    nozzle and I dare not type here what he said. It cost him a new suit.
    Twice actually because a few weeks later he did it again.

    Further to your comment. They will mix when you are filling it, but if
    left to stand they will separate again because one is lighter than the other
    (I forget which) and you can then drain them off separately if the tank has
    a drain plug. Of course if you have attempted to start the engine it gets
    much more complicated.....
     
    Keith Willcocks, Jun 3, 2007
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  7. Back in the days of the MK 1 Ford Cortina (early 60's?) there was a Cortina
    converted to need no carburettor. The fuel tank had no breather hole at
    the top, instead a pipe led from outside to almost the bottom of the tank so
    air could only enter by bubbling up through the petrol resulting in a
    combustible vapour at the top. This was collected, using the suction of
    the engine intake, by a hose attached to the tank top and it lead straight
    into the engine via a butterfly throttle valve and some sort of safety
    device in case of blow back. It used far less petrol than the
    conventional design and the car performed much better. Of course the
    health and safety people nowadays would have a field day. Last I heard,
    one of the carburettor manufacturers (SU, Solex or whoever) was supposed to
    have bought the patent and killed it stone dead.
     
    Keith Willcocks, Jun 3, 2007
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  8. I am told that the grill things on the ground at filling stations are
    there to recycle the fumes given off when filling up. So you pay for the
    fuel then the garage gets some back!
     
    Right hand down a bit, Jun 3, 2007
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    G.T Guest

    Hi,
    Water is heavier than fuel. Indeed, water is heavier than any fueling fluid
    I know.
    For information, density of fluids : water 1Kg / L, heavy fuel (Diesel) :
    ..845Kg/L, petrol : .750Kg/L.
    So by opening the drain screw you allow water to run away, as it's heavier
    than fuel. The same way, as water is electrically conductive (which fuel
    isn't) you also have the principe of "water in fuel" indicators.

    Regards,
     
    G.T, Jun 4, 2007
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    5 O'Clock Guest

    Strictly speaking, pure water is an insulator.
     
    5 O'Clock, Jun 4, 2007
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  11. I believe it was toyota that had a lean burn engine in their carina
    several years ago, the principle of it is the same, once a car is at
    speed you need less fuel to keep it up to speed and so you can run it
    with a leaner mixture.

    i experimented with that on a light motorbike ( yamaha DT) by having
    air induction on the air filter side and a smaller venturi in the
    carburetor giving the air more speed over the nozzle

    it allowed to reduce nozzle size by some 25% and thus having about the
    same effect on fuel consumption.

    of course it meant that pulling away for first corner at traffic light
    pole position was out of the question but that time was made up for in
    spending less time at the petrol station

    Of course the

    the thing is with that principle that you have to have a more or les
    consistent fuel temperature in order to get the mixture right, i.e.
    the colder it gets the leaner the mixture will be. So i dont think the
    patent was killed, It might have died of natural causes
     
    Marc Amsterdam, Jun 5, 2007
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    G.T Guest

    Hi,
    Right, but rain, condensation residue or tap water aren't.
    Pure water is pretty uncommon, outside of physics laboratories or
    semiconductor plants ;-)

    Regards,
     
    G.T, Jun 9, 2007
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