Abs Fault - 2001 307 hdi

Discussion in 'Peugeot 307' started by Ian O'Dowd, Jan 31, 2006.

  1. Ian O'Dowd

    Ian O'Dowd Guest

    I would like to share with the group another 'issue' I've had with my 307.
    It is now resolved but seems worth remembering / sharing.

    Ive had a problem with slowspeed braking that i'm getting the ABS engaging
    for no apparent reason and releasing one of the wheels. This started about
    16 months ago and has got gradually worse.
    The car stops well and passed its MOT in september whilst like this but is a
    real pain.

    I got my local tyre and brake supplier to check it out, and they couldnt
    find any issues with the brakes etc. They recommended a local independant
    garage that would be able to check the diagnostics.

    They found no faults reported on the diagnostics and no warning lights etc.
    They suggested a new ABS pump but warned it was offered as a 'most likely'
    cause rather than dead cert. Given the likely cost, have a think about it
    first. I decided to bear with it, so long as it stayed safe, and hope for a
    fault to be recorded on the diagnostics.


    5 MONTHS ON it went back for service and they again asked what I wanted to
    do. This time whilst talking to my mechanic I mentioned that at 40000miles
    another garage had replaced a front bearing.

    They suggested this may be the missing link. If the bearing had been put in
    wrongly (or the wrong bearing used) the ABS sensor on that side may be
    fooled into thinking the wheel wasnt turning, and activating the abs pump.
    They stripped it down and found whilst the bearing was fine, the circlip was
    overlapping the sensor by a few millimeters. REFITTED CORRECTLY AND FAULT
    VANISHES.

    So despite being originally told the ABS unit is self contained and is most
    often the cause of any problems, this clearly demonstrates this is not so.

    Sometimes it pays to persist when there seems no obvious fault.
     
    Ian O'Dowd, Jan 31, 2006
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  2. Ian O'Dowd

    Brian Guest

    do. This time whilst talking to my mechanic I mentioned that at 40000miles
    The first thing to check with any ABS problem is the wheel sensors. They
    don't have to be far out to cause a problem. They also fail, but that should
    show up on the diagnostics.
     
    Brian, Feb 1, 2006
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  3. where in this case they were not @ fault, in fact, they were working
    splendid.... only there sight was blocked.

    true to say that if an ABS issue is to be solved, the most obvious
    place to look are the wheel sensors.

    garagists these day's just cannot seem to find faults without their
    computer, and if nothing shows up, nothing is a fault....
    if there is something at fault the only solution they can come up with
    it replacing the unit that comes up in the computer, and still not
    knowing what was wrong with it.

    First thing i do in a garage is look if there are some senior
    mechanics that are over 50 years of age. they are the ones that can
    determine a fault by driving a car, listening to the engine, AND
    listening to the costumer.
     
    Marc Amsterdam, Feb 1, 2006
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  4. Ian O'Dowd

    davek Guest

    So despite being originally told the ABS unit is self contained and is
    Useful information.
    It's been done to death but I'll mention it again; the wheel sensors get
    covered in metallic gunge from the brakes. This causes various problems,
    like the abs warning lamp flashing intermittently to abs cutting in when
    braking smoothly on a dry road. Halford sell a big aerosol can of brake
    cleaner for about a fiver. Good spray and clean with an old toothbrush- job
    done.
    DaveK.
     
    davek, Feb 1, 2006
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  5. Ian O'Dowd

    Brian Guest

    garagists these day's just cannot seem to find faults without their
    Marc, this is so true.
     
    Brian, Feb 10, 2006
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