406 speedo fault

[Adrian (3)]

I have a 406 estate 2.1 exec.
The speedo does not work on first starting off and it would seem that after about 10 mins it starts to jump a bit and after taking the car up to about 65-70 it will then kick in. sometimes it wil start to work from the off, sometimes it will kick in whilst still driving slowly. The speedo is of the electrica type (not cable drive). I've been underneath and disconnected the loom and tried to give it a clean but it's so innaccesible and the female socket is so small it's difficult to do. I notice from an earlier post that someone recomended disconnecting the battery for a few minutes, this I've tried and thought I'd cracked it, but the next morning it wasn't working again. Has anyone got any suggestions.
Cheers in anticipation

 

[Deviant Devanti]

Hi Adrian,

You need to replace the speedometer transducer box, which is located under the glovebox small black box with white plug and retaining clip.. or so it was on mine.

I had the same problem and it costs about £23 to fix, hope that helps

D.

I have a 406 estate 2.1 exec.
The speedo does not work on first starting off and it would seem that

after about 10 mins it starts to jump a bit and after taking the car up to about 65-70 it will then kick in. sometimes it wil start to work from the off, sometimes it will kick in whilst still driving slowly.

The speedo is of the electrica type (not cable drive).
I've been underneath and disconnected the loom and tried to give it a

clean but it's so innaccesible and the female socket is so small it's difficult to do.

I notice from an earlier post that someone recomended disconnecting the

battery for a few minutes, this I've tried and thought I'd cracked it, but the next morning it wasn't working again.

 

[Adrian (3)]

Cheers mate,
I'll try that. I stumbled on this site by chance. It's very comforting to know that there are similar minds out there who begrudge paying £40 an hour to a dealer. The problem is that I have to do the clutch next, allegedly a 6 hour job. £379 at the dealer, and £200+vat for labour on top of £150 for the clutch from an independant!!!!

 

[Nigel (archive)]

Cheers mate,
I'll try that. I stumbled on this site by chance. It's very comforting to know that there are similar minds out there who begrudge paying £40 an hour to a dealer. The problem is that I have to do the clutch next, allegedly a 6 hour job. £379 at the dealer, and £200+vat for labour on top of £150 for the clutch from an independant!!!!

I'm not sure without checking, but I think 6 hours is a bit too much. 4 hours is more like it (I think). But then again £40 an hour is quite cheap. Most of them are upwards of £65. You could always find a dealer that still does "Parts Wear" for cars three years or older but it is starting to be phased out now.

 

[Neil D]

Hi Devanti, I tried to contact you direct, but had no joy. Can you e-mail me so I can ask you a few questions about this black box. Take a look at my e-mail address, rather than just using "reply to sender",

Thanks
Neil

 

[Adrian (3)]

Cheers Devanti,
The Speedo Interface Unit (or ECU as the dealer liked to call it) has done the trick. £38. Had to have it as I didn't like the idea of'Her Indoors' driving with v.light steering. I'm still shopping around for the clutch!

 

[Robin Bendall]

Cheers Devanti,
The Speedo Interface Unit (or ECU as the dealer liked to call it) has done the trick. £38. Had to have it as I didn't like the idea of'Her Indoors' driving with v.light steering. I'm still shopping around for the clutch!

For those who have removed/changed the ECU under the glovebox, is it a totally sealed unit or is it possible to open it up and gain access to the electronics? An experienced garage mechanic suggested to me the fault is most likely a dry joint inside the unit.

 

[Neil D]

Today I took the box out of mine. I is a sealed box, but I hacksawed it open, sprayed a load of cantact cleaner on it. It's a bit better, but still not right. Any ideas on how to find a dry joint?

Neil

 

[Robin Bendall]

Thanks for the info, it doesn't sound too promising.

I cured a problem on my radio today which has been bugging me for a year or more. I removed it and ran some solder around a few joints. I used to get loud bangs out of the right hand front speaker and other crackles as well.

It is not always easy to see a dry joint unless you have a magnifying glass but the solder around a connection may look a little grey and crystalline or a connection may be moveable. However one needs to be able to gain access to the printed circuit board so if it is all potted in resin there is no chance, hence my question..

 

[Deviant Devanti]

Hi Adian,

Yeah mee to my clutch needs doing, only I was told 16 hours labour at £800 + the VAT and thats not including a £99 lucas clutch kit from euro car parts ! so over a grand ! Lucky that I can do it myself, ok so with the help of my older wiser and more mechanically minded brother !

I got the theory sorted its now the practical to pass !

lol

D

Cheers mate,
I'll try that. I stumbled on this site by chance. It's very comforting to

know that there are similar minds out

there who begrudge paying £40 an hour to a dealer.
The problem is that I have to do the clutch next, allegedly a 6 hour job.

£379 at the dealer, and £200+vat for labour on top of £150 for the clutch from an independant!!!!

 

[M. H. Greaves]

Thats a bit steep!
i saw a price in my local peugeot dealer, £250 supply and fit, cant remember whether thats ex VAT or not but it seems ok

 

[Deviant Devanti]

That is good and I would pay that,
The clutch centre that I went to priced by the book and we all know that the book never lies ! lol

I think though I may just do it myself when the weather is better sure it may take someone 16 hours to do with 12 hours worth of tea breaks !! )

If y9ou could find out which dealer it was that would be great !

Cheers

D

"M. H. Greaves" wrote:

Thats a bit steep!
i saw a price in my local peugeot dealer, 250 supply and fit, cant

remember

whether thats ex VAT or not but it seems ok
"Deviant Devanti" wrote
in message
> Hi Adian,
>
> Yeah mee to my clutch needs doing, only I was told 16 hours labour at

800

+
> the VAT and thats not including a 99 lucas clutch kit from euro car

parts

!
> so over a grand ! Lucky that I can do it myself, ok so with the help of

my

> older wiser and more mechanically minded brother !
>
> I got the theory sorted its now the practical to pass !
>
> lol
>
> D
>
>
> "Adrian" wrote:
>
> > Cheers mate,
...

clutch

> from an independant!!!!
> >
> >
> >
>
>

 

[M. H. Greaves]

I was at the dealer two weeks ago for my M.O.T. and didnt see it on the board but cant imagine it to be that much different or far away from what i saw, my dealer is Arnold Clark, at Hamilton Rd, Mount Vernon, Glasgow. "Deviant Devanti" wrote in message

That is good and I would pay that,
The clutch centre that I went to priced by the book and we all know that

the

book never lies ! lol

I think though I may just do it myself when the weather is better sure it may take someone 16 hours to do with 12 hours worth of tea breaks !! )

If y9ou could find out which dealer it was that would be great !

Cheers

D

...

wrote

> in message
> > Hi Adian,
> >
> > Yeah mee to my clutch needs doing, only I was told 16 hours labour at 800
> +
> > the VAT and thats not including a 99 lucas clutch kit from euro car parts
> !
> > so over a grand ! Lucky that I can do it myself, ok so with the help

of

my
> > older wiser and more mechanically minded brother !
> >
> > I got the theory sorted its now the practical to pass !
> >
> > lol
> >
> > D
> >
> >
> > "Adrian" wrote:
> >
...

comforting

> to
> > know that there are similar minds out
> > > there who begrudge paying 40 an hour to a dealer.
> > > The problem is that I have to do the clutch next, allegedly a 6 hour
> job.
> > 379 at the dealer, and 200+vat for labour on top of 150 for the clutch
> > from an independant!!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
...

 

[test]

I found this story you may want to check out

I recently needed a replacement clutch for my TD 406.

Firstly, I tried the main dealer and could only get a quote out of them after considerable pressure. The excuse was that it depended on how long it took to do the job. I find this incredible when they must be doing these repairs all the time and I was under the impression that they had fixed prices for such operations, anyway. Eventually he suggested a very uncertain
400.

I then discovered a local 'Clutch Point' garage in the yellow pages so I paid them a visit. They turned out to be an agent for Borg and Beck - a firm who have been around for a long time, of course, so I felt quite confident in letting them do the job. The cost was exactly half, at 200 !And it is guaranteed, parts and labour, for as long as I keep the car, provided I have it checked once a year.

Garages can be found here
http://www.enabledsites.co.uk/workshops/clutch.asp

If you check it out let me know as I may need one soon too

"M. H. Greaves" wrote:

I was at the dealer two weeks ago for my M.O.T. and didnt see it on the board but cant imagine it to be that much different or far away from what

i

saw, my dealer is Arnold Clark, at Hamilton Rd, Mount Vernon, Glasgow. "Deviant Devanti" wrote in message
> That is good and I would pay that,
> The clutch centre that I went to priced by the book and we all know that the
> book never lies ! lol
>
> I think though I may just do it myself when the weather is better sure

it

> may take someone 16 hours to do with 12
> hours worth of tea breaks !! )
>
> If y9ou could find out which dealer it was that would be great !
>
> Cheers
>
> D
>
>
> "M. H. Greaves" wrote:
>
...

at

> 800
> > +
> > > the VAT and thats not including a 99 lucas clutch kit from euro car
> parts
> > !
> > > so over a grand ! Lucky that I can do it myself, ok so with the help of
> my
> > > older wiser and more mechanically minded brother !
> > >
> > > I got the theory sorted its now the practical to pass !
> > >
...

> > > > Cheers mate,
> > > > I'll try that. I stumbled on this site by chance. It's very comforting
> > to
> > > know that there are similar minds out
> > > > there who begrudge paying 40 an hour to a dealer.
> > > > The problem is that I have to do the clutch next, allegedly a 6

hour

> > job.
> > > 379 at the dealer, and 200+vat for labour on top of 150 for the
> clutch
> > > from an independant!!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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