306 XT Engine Transplant

[scott]

Im looking at getting a 2L engine from a 406 or 406 SRI and putting it into my 306. I have been told they will fit straight in (and so will a 3L V6 out of a coupe!). Has anyone done this before and what other things will I have to do? Clearly the brain will have to be changed and I am hoping that the front suspension will hold out for a little while till I get some better stuff put on. Its just my 1.6 engine is just not pokey enuff at just over 100bhp.

In addition to this, does anyone know any good places (and cheap) where I can get an engine from? I would ideally like a 406 SRI engine cos its the 2 litre turbo engine. From what I can see the SRI doesnt appear to be that fast even with the turbo so Im thinking that by putting it in my car it should make my nice little car even nicer. Im also fed up with the tapping noise from the camshaft...it drives me insane! The 1.6 is a nicely aspirated engine BUT a 2 litre turbo is an even more nicely aspirated engine. Would sound nice too with a dump valve!!! (yes im under 30)

scott

 

[Dan405]

Im looking at getting a 2L engine from a 406 or 406 SRI and putting it

into my 306. I have been told they will fit straight in (and so will a 3L V6 out of a coupe!). Has anyone done this before and what other things will I have to do? Clearly the brain will have to be changed and I am hoping that the front suspension will hold out for a little while till I get some better stuff put on. Its just my 1.6 engine is just not pokey enuff at just over 100bhp.

In addition to this, does anyone know any good places (and cheap) where I can get an engine from? I would ideally like a 406 SRI engine cos its the 2 litre turbo engine. From what I can see the SRI doesnt appear to be that fast even with the turbo so Im thinking that by putting it in my car it should make my nice little car even nicer. Im also fed up with the tapping noise from the camshaft...it drives me insane! The 1.6 is a nicely aspirated engine BUT a 2 litre turbo is an even more nicely aspirated engine. Would sound nice too with a dump valve!!! (yes im under 30)

The 2.0 Turbo from the 406 only makes 150bhp, you'd be better with a 306 GTi engine or an Mi16 transplant as they'tre more powerful. However, the 406 engine has good potential, Ecosse do a 200bhp upgrade kit...

 

[G.T]

Hello,

The 2.0 Turbo from the 406 only makes 150bhp, you'd be better with a 306 GTi engine or an Mi16 transplant as they'tre more powerful. However, the 406 engine has good potential, Ecosse do a 200bhp upgrade kit...

Its low power (148HP is not a 2.0T engine power) would be due to its turbo, mainly here to bring more torque at low revs, acccording to what I've heard. Of course, I'd try to get a 306 GTi or 405Mi16 engine, it would be less painful to put in and to set up.

 

[Dan405]

The 2.0 Turbo from the 406 only makes 150bhp, you'd be better with a 306

GTi
Its low power (148HP is not a 2.0T engine power) would be due to its turbo, mainly here to bring more torque at low revs, acccording to what I've heard. Of course, I'd try to get a 306 GTi or 405Mi16 engine, it would be less painful to put in and to set up.

Yea, it wasn't built as a sports car, it was a comfortable 150bhp cruiser that met the emissions regs

 

[scott]

Hello,

Its low power (148HP is not a 2.0T engine power) would be due to its turbo, mainly here to bring more torque at low revs, acccording to what I've heard. Of course, I'd try to get a 306 GTi or 405Mi16 engine, it would be less painful to put in and to set up.

so are you saying that a 405 MI16 would fit into my car cos I was under the impression it wouldnt fit. Ive been told 406 2 Litre engines fit straight in! I just want something bigger than the crap thing ive got in it at the moment, plus it hasnt got the grunt that i want it to have. Not that i want it to be silly fast but I would like it to be a bit quicker on the uptake!

scott

 

[G.T]

Hello,

so are you saying that a 405 MI16 would fit into my car cos I was under the impression it wouldnt fit. Ive been told 406 2 Litre engines fit straight in!

Of course it will ! 306s GTi (or S16, I don't know for export type, as here we just have the GTI-6, called S16), so 2.0 16v 155HP are just 306s with Mk2 Mi16 engines. I don't know if the TU-2-XU conversion is easy. My better guess (although this transplant is legal in UK) would be to sold the car and to get a GTi, or any one else, more powerful (1.8 8v, 2.0 8v).

 

[scott]

My better

guess (although this transplant is legal in UK) would be to sold the car and to get a GTi, or any one else, more powerful (1.8 8v, 2.0 8v).

yes but that wouldnt be any fun would it! Plus my insurance would go up quite a bit, which doesnt concern me too much, but everyone knows what a GTI looks like. However, if you pull up next to an XT with XT alloys and it just happens to have a GTI or powerful engine in it you wouldnt have a clue would u. Plus, I have strange noises coming from my engine which my uncle will be able to tell me about when i go to see him in Glasgow in a few weeks! Sounds quite bad!

scott

 

[G.T]

Hello,

alloys and it just happens to have a GTI or powerful engine in it you wouldnt have a clue would u. Plus, I have strange noises coming from

True. So you also want to make a surprise to other people, something like "try to follow me", true ?

my engine which my uncle will be able to tell me about when i go to see him in Glasgow in a few weeks! Sounds quite bad!

Well, could be valve tappets. Common on TUs.

 

[SimonDS]

My better

yes but that wouldnt be any fun would it! Plus my insurance would go up quite a bit, which doesnt concern me too much, but everyone knows what a GTI looks like. However, if you pull up next to an XT with XT alloys and it just happens to have a GTI or powerful engine in it you wouldnt have a clue would u. Plus, I have strange noises coming from my engine which my uncle will be able to tell me about when i go to see him in Glasgow in a few weeks! Sounds quite bad!

scott

If it gets there! ))

 

[scott]

I wanna surprise those BMW drivers. The "its only a peugeot, its gonna be slow" ideology which follows with all BMW drivers. Just i want my pug to be just a tad faster, and cos its lighter it should whip them into submission.

The noises my car is making are engine noises, not tappets cos i have checked those and there is nothing i can do about them. A common prob with pugs i hear.

oh and one last thought...if you are at traffic lights and you are winding the car up next to you and that car suddenly revs his engine up and you hear a ptssss noise then you just know you aint gonna win! And if you know that peugeot dont make 306s with turbos then you are gonna wonder even more...just a thought!!

scott

 

[Shaun (archive)]

I wanna surprise those BMW drivers. The "its only a peugeot, its gonna be slow" ideology which follows with all BMW drivers. Just i want my pug to be just a tad faster, and cos its lighter it should whip them into submission.

The noises my car is making are engine noises, not tappets cos i have checked those and there is nothing i can do about them. A common prob with pugs i hear.

oh and one last thought...if you are at traffic lights and you are winding the car up next to you and that car suddenly revs his engine up and you hear a ptssss noise then you just know you aint gonna win! And if you know that peugeot dont make 306s with turbos then you are gonna wonder even more...just a thought!!

scott

My DTurbo has got a turbo. Don't diesels count?

Shaun

 

[scott]

My DTurbo has got a turbo. Don't diesels count?

Shaun

I dont think Peugeot have quite managed to get their diesels to develop 150bhp yet unlike BMW. Shame really cos I think there is a real advantage to be taken there. Peugeot make really good diesel engines, why do all the taxis use them after all, so if they made a really nippy one then it would be good.

I think that we have lost track really of this engine transplant thing. I was wondering, if I was to put a 2l turbo out of a 406, will a 306 gearbox still fit on it?

scott

 

[Shaun (archive)]

I dont think Peugeot have quite managed to get their diesels to develop 150bhp yet unlike BMW. Shame really cos I think there is a real advantage to be taken there. Peugeot make really good diesel engines, why do all the taxis use them after all, so if they made a really nippy one then it would be good.

Well I'm working on it but I think the head gasket will go before mine gets to 150bhp.

I know what you mean though. VW and friends have diesels from 90 to 150bhp in similar sized cars and even Ford have the 115bhp TDCi. The manufacturers seem a little slow in realising that there is a market for sporty diesels. Although some of the diesel Peugeots look sporty, they don't really have the guts to back it up. The new BMW 320Cd and 330Cd look rather tasty though.

Shaun

 

[G.T]

Hello,

in similar sized cars and even Ford have the 115bhp TDCi. The

manufacturers

seem a little slow in realising that there is a market for sporty diesels.

It's because of the petrol-powered-cars-owners' lobbying

Although some of the diesel Peugeots look sporty, they don't really have

the
Talking 'bout Peugeot, remember they made the 205Dturbo, just 78HP bit inside a 925kg car, with GTi bumpers, GTi-like clocks (rather XS), GTi-like seats (no leather, so rather XS here again), *and* a 1.6GTi chassis. Had several test drives with these DTurbos, of course it's sporty. You put the shame on any Golf TDI90 owner.

Regards,
G.T

205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st

 

[SimonDS]

my d'turbo has 125bhp ;-))

Hello,
diesels.
It's because of the petrol-powered-cars-owners' lobbying

the
Talking 'bout Peugeot, remember they made the 205Dturbo, just 78HP bit inside a 925kg car, with GTi bumpers, GTi-like clocks (rather XS), GTi-like seats (no leather, so rather XS here again), *and* a 1.6GTi chassis. Had several test drives with these DTurbos, of course it's sporty. You put the shame on any Golf TDI90 owner.

 

[G.T]

Hello,

my d'turbo has 125bhp ;-))

You're joking, sure !

 

[Shaun (archive)]

my d'turbo has 125bhp ;-))

Sounds like fun.

What have you done to it and has it given you any head gasket problems?

Shaun

 

[scott]

"G.T" wrote:

Hello,

> my d'turbo has 125bhp ;-))
You're joking, sure !

Am I wrong here or do i sense a hint of jealousy? Get ready for the mass of questions!!!

scott

 

[G.T]

Hello,

Am I wrong here or do i sense a hint of jealousy? Get ready for the mass of questions!!!

You're wrong, that ain't jealousy Ok, I've only got 60HP, but I'm sure they'll last forever... I just can't imagine a reliable DTurbo (guessing it's a 306, so the 1.9) @125BHP (~126.7HP), as it's a lot more than DTurbo's factory settings (92HP).

 

[Shaun (archive)]

Hello,

You're wrong, that ain't jealousy Ok, I've only got 60HP, but I'm sure they'll last forever... I just can't imagine a reliable DTurbo (guessing it's a 306, so the 1.9) @125BHP (~126.7HP), as it's a lot more than DTurbo's factory settings (92HP).

I've heard of the 1.9 making over 140bhp with a high lift cam, 20psi boost and two stage intercooler. I've also heard that 125bhp is possible by just cranking up the fueling and increasing boost to 1.5bar (abaout 22psi). I'm not sure how long the head gasket would last though.

Shaun