206 keeps unlocking

Discussion in 'Peugeot 206' started by Jeff, Apr 30, 2009.

  1. Jeff

    Jeff Guest

    I have a 206 on a 05 plate. It is well looked after.

    If I park it up and lock it using the remote key and go out to it in the
    morning I find that it has unlocked itself.

    Is this a common problem and if so what causes it? The fob has a new
    battery.

    Thanks Jeff
     
    Jeff, Apr 30, 2009
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  2. Jeff

    Tom Guest

    My brother in law experienced similar problems with a 306 he had. In
    the end it turned out he was sitting in the house with the keys in his
    pocket and activating the button without his knowledge while the keys
    were in his pocket.

    Regards

    Tom
     
    Tom, Apr 30, 2009
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  3. Jeff

    Jeff Guest

    I have a similar problem with my BMW....it keeps unlocking outside the
    house due to pressure applied to the key in my pocket from the other
    keys on the ring. I eventually solved it after a number of attempts by
    rearranging the order of the keys on the ring.

    Jeff (a different Jeff!)
     
    Jeff, May 1, 2009
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  4. Jeff

    Doki Guest

    Problems with the boot lock cause this problem on the 406. I wouldn't
    surprised if the problem carries across to other models in the range - like
    the terrible indicator stalks.
     
    Doki, May 1, 2009
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  5. Jeff

    Tom Guest

    I've always found the indicator stalks quite well made and chunky on
    all my Peugeots from the 205 upwards. What sort of problems have you
    experienced?

    Regards

    Tom
     
    Tom, May 1, 2009
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  6. Jeff

    Ivor Jones Guest

    In Jeff <> typed, for some strange, unexplained
    reason:
    : I have a 206 on a 05 plate. It is well looked after.
    :
    : If I park it up and lock it using the remote key and go out to it in
    : the morning I find that it has unlocked itself.
    :
    : Is this a common problem and if so what causes it? The fob has a new
    : battery.
    :
    : Thanks Jeff

    I had this problem with a Ford Fiesta. I can only assume that it was radio
    interference from somewhere.

    I wonder if you have any radio amateurs living nearby..? Keyfobs operate
    on 432 MHz, which just happens to be slap bang in the middle of the 70cm
    amateur band, one of the most popular for amateurs. Just why they (whoever
    "they" are) chose to put keyfobs in this part of the spectrum has always
    been a mystery to me, but who knows what goes through what passes as minds
    for these people..?

    If you do end up determining that it's interference from a nearby amateur
    transmitter, *please* don't go sounding off at whoever it is, he or she is
    operating perfectly legally within the terms of their licence; it's the
    fault of the idiots who decided this was a good frequency to put keyfobs.

    Ivor
     
    Ivor Jones, May 1, 2009
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  7. Jeff

    malc Guest

    Back in 1989 I was living on the Isle of Wight and sharing a house with some
    blokes who worked for Plessey. Apparently what they did was to hook up a RF
    sweep generator and (IIRC) a digital counter to an amplifier and hang the
    aerial outside a window facing the company carpark. It set off every alarm
    or so they said.

    --
    Malc

    Rusted and ropy.
    Dog-eared old copy.
    Vintage and classic,
    or just plain Jurassic:
    all words to describe me.
     
    malc, May 2, 2009
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  8. Jeff

    G.T Guest

    Hi,
    Indeed, this frequency range is a part of the spectrum called ISM (which
    stands for Industrial, Scientific & Medical), and are free of charge. This
    means that anyone can send and/or receive something in the air without
    paying charges.
    That's one reason why most of the remote controls are set to this 433MHz
    freq.
    Most known ISM frequencies are 27MHz (almost unusable, 'cause took by both
    CB-enthousiasts and model remote controllers) ; 433MHz (mostly used by
    gates, cars remotes and some short-range, wireless home accessories like
    stereo headsets) ; 866MHz (same usage, but less prone to saturation as a lot
    of equipments haven't moved to this one yet - should be coming soon though)
    ; and a bunch of air around 2.45GHz, mostly used by both WiFi and Bluetooth.

    Yes, cost does matter :)

    Regards,
     
    G.T, May 3, 2009
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  9. Jeff

    Jeff Guest

    Also the very worst that a carrier SHOULD do is block operation of a
    device. It should NOT open or close locks. This is done using data.
     
    Jeff, May 3, 2009
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  10. Jeff

    G.T Guest

    Hi,
    I agree with you on that point, but we've all heard of such "horror
    stories".
    Some early-electronics cars (with a design flaw, IMO) tend to stall when
    driving under a high-voltage line.
    Where high voltage is involved in industrial plants, some areas are
    forbidden to cars, because they tend to stall or malfunction.
    The other day, a friend of mine told me he was unable to lock his car, even
    using the key when he parked aside the TV and radio trucs on a sports event
    (he was a journalist at this time). I've already heard such things before.
    All these events & facts are related, and is forever challenge for
    electronics designers : the immunity to transients and RF-pollution. And it
    ain't easy.

    That may be said as being the price of progress, which I would agree with...
    But it's also damn true that, especially in automotive electronics, they
    can't do what they want, mainly for questions of cost involved.
    We still can be reinsurred in thinking that the electrics and electronics
    which tend to work with a lot of pollution around them, for example in the
    engine bay, is protected enough and still works.
    The best demonstration of that could be that, when your mobile phone rings
    (which is the most perceptible proof there is some hi-freq in there), your
    car doesn't stops. Try the same with a (preferentially recent & cheap) CRT
    monitor, and you'll see what shielding means.

    Regards,
     
    G.T, May 3, 2009
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  11. Jeff

    Jeff Guest

    Indeed. There was the AA control center who used to ask where a car had
    broken down and had a list of locations where cars electronics would
    just die due to such interference and would advise the caller to push
    their car a few feet up the road where it would always and immediately
    come back to life.
     
    Jeff, May 3, 2009
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  12. Jeff

    Mrcheerful Guest

    especially airports
     
    Mrcheerful, May 3, 2009
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  13. Jeff

    Doki Guest

    The indicator stalks are terrible. They go floppy, and self cancel straight
    through to indicating the opposite direction. It's a common issue on all the
    early multiplexed Peugeots. Pug were replacing indicator stalks FOC up to
    around 4 years old I think.
     
    Doki, May 5, 2009
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  14. Jeff

    G.T Guest

    Hi,
    the
    And easily flash in high-beam (I can't remember the translation for this)
    when selecting a side indication.
    I've heard of that, but when I went with my brand new '02 206 (so an early
    mux, and I know it's muxed) for an oil change, I asked them about stalk &
    updates and they said "no, no update required for your car, the stalk is a
    common fault we're aware of".
    So at least my local dealer (crappy, excepted on the fast service, so where
    I need them most of times) doesn't do it FOC anymore.
    [and I don't want to spend a lot of money in a new stalk control... I've
    learned to live with, even if it's a bit boring esp. in the cities]

    Regards,
     
    G.T, May 5, 2009
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  15. Jeff

    andrew Guest

    I thought the same till my 03 van stalk packed up with no left turn
    indicator and headlights on full beam instead of right turn indicator. 110
    quid and air bag warning permanently on since...

    I'm actually having an unlocking problem too but tended to put it down to my
    absentmindedness.

    AJH
     
    andrew, May 6, 2009
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