206 GTi such a dog

M

miner.-

Usenet Archive
Joined
May 14, 2001
Messages
308
Reaction score
0
yep, my GTi is still shagged

It has
Flat spots
Rough Idle
Stalling on return to idle or more common RPM drops to 500 rpm and the ECU plays hunt poor performance nasty engine vibration when the rpm goes either way through 1000 rpm (worse on returning to idle)

the dealers have tried

ecu downloads (many)
new alternator
new spark plugs and coils
piston seals
new ecu

all to no avail

what the fuk is wrong with my car

its a 2000 (dec) GTi
but when its playing up a 1.1 goes faster
 
idle control unit/stepper motor is a common 306/206 fault

"miner.-" wrote:

yep, my GTi is still shagged

It has
Flat spots
Rough Idle
Stalling on return to idle or more common RPM drops to 500 rpm and the ECU plays hunt poor performance nasty engine vibration when the rpm goes either way through 1000 rpm
Click to expand...
(worse
on returning to idle)

the dealers have tried

ecu downloads (many)
new alternator
new spark plugs and coils
piston seals
new ecu

all to no avail

...
Click to expand...
 
The idle stepper motor is a common fault on ALL peugeots that have them. My last 406 had this problem

Luke
 
SimonDS said:
idle control unit/stepper motor is a common 306/206 fault
Click to expand...

i've suggested this in the past
but they seem reluctant to change things until the ecu logs a fault

the new ecu is making a far better task of corecting the faults but are now getting worse but it fails to log the car when it stutters and seems to lose a cylinder it at the moment only does it for less than a second before it could go on for several seconds resulting in an ecu fault capture.

but they thought the ecu was at fault, but wonder if all these faults constant can kill the ecu?

cheers

miner.-
 
The idle stepper motor fault will cause stalling at idle and the idel speed hunting as you described

Flat spots could be a faulty knock sensor retarding the ignition

Luke
"miner.-" wrote:

"Luke Wells" wrote:

> The idle stepper motor is a common fault on ALL peugeots that have them. My
> last 406 had this problem
>

does it also lose power and have flat spots and stall at idle?

miner.-
Click to expand...
 
the stepper fault doesn't always show on the ecu log or so i'm told. In fact loads of fault don't show on the ecu log. why they changed the ecu (£500) BEFORE the stepper (£70) is probably because the ecu is easier
 
SimonDS said:
the stepper fault doesn't always show on the ecu log or so i'm told. In fact loads of fault don't show on the ecu log. why they changed the ecu (£500) BEFORE the stepper (£70) is probably because the ecu is easier
Click to expand...

just been to the dealer and they are not prepared to
investigate any further as the new ECU is fine according to them

the service manager sat in the car and cannot feel the rough idle cannot see the shaking of the gearstick and cannot see the ECU hunting from time to time. They had a 15 minute drive in it and can't feel any flat spots. well i can

they funnily enough wouldn't let me try any other peugeots so they can show me that they all do it.

peugeot customer services are a waste of space

the car is not safe it cuts out from time to time and has flat spots that come and go and every now and then loses all power, which is great when you've just pulled out

the warranty is about to end in october

i give up i really do, any one have a solution?
i can't even sell it because no one in their right mind would buy that and i've lost so much money on it its worthless now.

how i wish i'd bought a clio 172 now

miner.-
 
yep, my GTi is still shagged
It has
Flat spots
Rough Idle
Stalling on return to idle or more common RPM drops to 500 rpm and the ECU plays hunt poor performance nasty engine vibration when the rpm goes either way through 1000 rpm (worse on returning to idle)

the dealers have tried

ecu downloads (many)
new alternator
new spark plugs and coils
piston seals
new ecu

all to no avail

what the fuk is wrong with my car

its a 2000 (dec) GTi
but when its playing up a 1.1 goes faster
Click to expand...

Did they check Oxigen sensor / exaust gases?
That "flat spot" sounds like oxigen sensor!
 
Did they check Oxigen sensor / exaust gases?
That "flat spot" sounds like oxigen sensor!
Click to expand...

it fukked again

massive missfire
loss of power
ecu warning light (k light) back on
cuts out again
back to dealers monday hopefully the light will stay on as sometimes it doesn't

miner.-
 
Take it to another dealer.

miner.- said:
just been to the dealer and they are not prepared to
investigate any further as the new ECU is fine according to them

the service manager sat in the car and cannot feel the rough idle cannot see the shaking of the gearstick and cannot see the ECU hunting from time to time. They had a 15 minute drive in it and can't feel any flat spots. well i can

they funnily enough wouldn't let me try any other peugeots so they can show me that they all do it.

peugeot customer services are a waste of space

the car is not safe it cuts out from time to time and has flat spots that come and go and every now and then loses all power, which is great when you've just pulled out

the warranty is about to end in october

i give up i really do, any one have a solution?
i can't even sell it because no one in their right mind would buy that and i've lost so much money on it its worthless now.

how i wish i'd bought a clio 172 now

miner.-
Click to expand...
 
SimonDS said:
Take it to another dealer.
Click to expand...

i think thats the only option its been to 2 already
the one where i bought it from are hopeless and i wouldn't ever take a car there again these are the clowns that allowed brake fluid into the master cylinder when changing the pads

i'm got it booked into to another dealer on the 29th but 1st thing tommorrow its going to the dealer so they can at least see the ecu fault light and i can say 'believe me now, yet again'

i will never ever buy a peugeot again, i love the cars but the build quality is the same as an embassy fag packet and the dealers are fuckin hopeless

this has been ongoing for nearly a year, peugeot themselves are now of the opinion the cars fixed cause they sent a suit out to test it and what a clueless muppet he was

personally i think it will never be fixed

miner.-
 
have you got a video camera? They can't agrue with you if it's on tape doing it
 
SimonDS said:
have you got a video camera? They can't agrue with you if it's on tape doing it
Click to expand...

the ecu light is still on, its running like a bag of shit at the moment they do tend to believe you with the light on

my dad was with me yesterday and he'll come with me in the morning

it's generally ok once they've done a new ecu download but gets worse and worse til it hits this stage and they know this

its had double figures of ecu downloads

its a lemon and they know it

the rough idle/vibration at 1000 rpm is there all the while

i've written some letters today

to trading standards
to the dealer i bought the car from rejecting it
the dealer who can't fix it asking why
the society of motor traders asking for help

anyone who knows about cars will only have to drive it to feel the flatspots and jerks

any other ideas?
apart from sell the sack of shit?
no one in their right mind will buy it at the moment will they and why should i sell it i like it when it works which these days is so very rare

miner.-
 
any other ideas?
apart from sell the sack of shit?
no one in their right mind will buy it at the moment
will they and why
should i sell it
i like it when it works which these days is so very rare
Click to expand...

Someone at work has a 206 GTi and has given her no strife at all (and she has given it a lot of strife, especially at traffic lights).

As you say, you've got a lemon. I tend to agree that it will be a shit for ever. I'd sell it if I were you - do an ECU download so it is OK-ish again, and flog it, preferably back to them.

Regarding you liking it when it works, buy another GTi from a respectable dealer, preferably a year old. I always buy my cars a year old as they have run in and should have got past the teething problem stage. I have never had a problem with a car yet (touch wood).

Good luck.

MS
 
It does sound like it's detecting detonation and retarding, hence it goes downhill after a ecu download

Try disconnecting the battery for half an hour and then reconnecting next time it starts acting like a dog.

If its good again, then it is the ecu retarding the settings

Luke
 
"Luke Wells" wrote:

It does sound like it's detecting detonation and retarding, hence it goes downhill after a ecu download

Try disconnecting the battery for half an hour and then reconnecting next time it starts acting like a dog.
Click to expand...

iirc in the 206 this can cause the airbag warning light to stop on

also as its still under warranty i'm shagged if i should fix it

cheers

miner.-
 
Marcus Sheen said:
Someone at work has a 206 GTi and has given her no strife at all (and she has given it a lot of strife, especially at traffic lights).

As you say, you've got a lemon. I tend to agree that it will be a shit for ever. I'd sell it if I were you - do an ECU download so it is OK-ish again, and flog it, preferably back to them.

Regarding you liking it when it works, buy another GTi from a respectable dealer, preferably a year old. I always buy my cars a year old as they have run in and should have got past the teething problem stage. I have never had a problem with a car yet (touch wood).
Click to expand...

the dealer is stumped so its awaiting transfer to an even bigger dealer in birmingham this dealer is peugeot owned

i'm going to try the legal route as this is unacceptable

they have had double figures attempts in 10 months

miner.-
 
if it's that bad you can go throygh the small claims court. I think it cost £15 to do so. Make sure you've got a list of every visit and what was done. My dealer didn't log every visit i made when my 306 did the same thing. I logged them though!!As i said before video the car playing up. They can't argue with that.

Simon
 
SimonDS said:
if it's that bad you can go throygh the small claims court. I think it cost £15 to do so. Make sure you've got a list of every visit and what was done. My dealer didn't log every visit i made when my 306 did the same thing. I logged them though!!As i said before video the car playing up. They can't argue with that.
Click to expand...

yes i am now keeping a full log
the dealers have only listed occasions where they have undertaken work. i have 5 listed from dealer 2 alone.

the car is now being tested at a pug owned dealers in birmingham.
i'm awaiting their call back

its hard to video a missfire and stall;-)

cheers

miner.-
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest threads

Back
Top