205 Drive Shaft Removal

Discussion in 'Peugeot 205' started by 205, Jul 16, 2003.

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    205 Guest

    H Reg/1992 205 1.4

    I need to replce the inner rubber boot due to a cut but at the same time
    will replace the outer one as signs of perishing.

    Offside hub nut removed and drive shaft is free from transmission but I
    spent some time trying to ge the drive shaft out from the Wheel/Hub
    mounting with no luck. According to the Haynes manual it should just
    "push" out and similar comments were passed by the local Peugeot dealer
    when I picked up a new replacement Hub nut to go back on - there was no
    trick of the trade other than a little force perhaps.

    We had already machined a small collet to fit over the Hub nut so I can
    "tap" (!) gently but no movement at all - on closer inspection it
    appears there is a circlip on the inside of the drive shaft/hub. This
    doesn't appear to be mentioned in the Haynes manual or indeed a
    suggested oversight by the dealer.

    I'll start again later today but I wonder if anybody can confirm this
    circlip needs to be removed or any other problems in remocing th drive
    shaft.

    It was supposed to be a quick job when I started :)

    Thanks for any comments.
     
    205, Jul 16, 2003
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    205 Guest

    Matt wrote:

    Matt,

    Thanks for the quick reply.
    We tried lump hammer onto a little machined collect but so far nothing
    at all.
    Just can't visualise this I'm afraid - the only "slit" I can think of is
    the ball joint clamp for the suspension arm which if opened would help
    with getting this out if you were having trouble with that. I'm need to
    double check if this circlip is there as I had had enough come to last
    night when I noticed it - if it is its seems strange it isn't mentioned
    in the Haymnes manual as a possible fit nor was the delaer letting on
    (mind you perhaps they wanted my business later when I had to give up !)

    Is it a Peugeot manual you have ?
    I feel we have already done enough of that but it looks like it may need
    more !

    Cheers
     
    205, Jul 16, 2003
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    205 Guest

    As a follow up it would appear this circlip is for the Hub Bearing so
    doesn't have anything to do with the shaft.

    False trail - back to basics it seems !
     
    205, Jul 16, 2003
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    Matt Guest

    Hmmmm - not sure then - Mine is a manual 5 speed 1.4 - The procedure was as
    described in the Haynes manual (including the "prise open with the Peugeot
    Tool/Flatblade" bit) with the exception of the "slide off" bit.

    It really was so unbelievably hard to get it off though.

    I found it to be easier with the top strut bolts very loose so you get more
    movement of the strut and hub etc. I held it all pushed outward from the car
    while my Dad hit the damn thing with a lump hammer.

    Sorry I can't be of any more help.

    You could try some "penetrating oil" over the collar that goes around the
    strut and leave it to soak for a while but it did turn out to be a pig of a
    job.

    Best of luck,
    Matt
    --
    1991 Peugeot 205 Roland Garros Cabriolet
    TU3S 1.4 Carb
    http://www.205rolandgarros.co.uk
    2003 - Happy 20th Birthday Peugeot 205
    ==
     
    Matt, Jul 16, 2003
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    Dave English Guest

    Matt:

    I think it is pretty clear that "205" is talking about freeing the shaft
    from the bearing, not the suspension from the suspension arm. Hence all
    the stuff about the new hub nut & a collet. We all know that one can be
    a pig, no wonder it is so prominent in your memory ;-)

    "205":

    I have done a few & the shaft has always just slid out without the need
    to apply any real force. I for one have never come across a circlip. I
    suppose that the shaft could get stuck though. Perhaps someone else
    here has more experience & can confirm what might happen. In the end
    though, I guess it ends up like any of those jobs: work out how to apply
    more force or face taking out (& possibly replacing) more at once.

    Good luck
     
    Dave English, Jul 16, 2003
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    sponixsponix Guest

    iirc there is a circlip in the back of the hub but this secures the
    main bearing.

    Sounds like maybe some rust holding the shaft in place?

    All I have done in the past is to tap the end of the driveshaft
    *gently* and the shaft just slides out. (Screw the old hub nut onto
    the shaft about a turn so as to protect the thread)

    Perhaps a judicious use of heat is called for..an electric paint
    stripper or maybe hairdryer will be more than sufficient....just heat
    the hub *gently* so as not to mung the wheel bearing. Failing that
    also try some 'plusgas' spray.

    sPoNiX
     
    sponixsponix, Jul 16, 2003
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    Carl Gibbs Guest

    Both my 205s have needed rep[lacement driveshafts and the only problem i
    encountered was getting the shaft out of the secondary bearing. Dont see
    why it would be stuck in the hub unless it had been there for a *very* long
    time. In which case brute force an ignorance is probably you're best bet.
    As someone said get some sort of lubricant and let it soak in for a while
    before beating the crap out of it (well thats what i would do with mine
    anyway)
     
    Carl Gibbs, Jul 16, 2003
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    Matt Guest

    Sorry, was early! :)

    M

    --
    1991 Peugeot 205 Roland Garros Cabriolet
    TU3S 1.4 Carb
    http://www.205rolandgarros.co.uk
    2003 - Happy 20th Birthday Peugeot 205
    ==
     
    Matt, Jul 16, 2003
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    205 Guest

    sPoNiX<< wrote:


    Thanks to all for the feedback - appreciated.
    Correct on that one - it is for the bearing.
    Tried that - as mentioned we made a little collet to go over the "old"
    hub nut just to give a little more surface area but still no joy.

    Using some 10mm bar and a handy bracket we came up with a "Hydraulic
    Ram" with a small bottle jack in a hrizintal position to apply some
    force - still no joy in getting the thing to move.

    Next step was to remove pads and caliper and remove the complete hub inc
    shaft from the transmission unit. This is the point I'm at now. Dinner
    break !

    I can at least replace the inner boot and can hopefully get the outer
    boot on by going from the "wrong end" but the shaft certainly seems well
    and truly stuck.
    A thought - thanks.
    Been there :)

    I'll report back :)
     
    205, Jul 16, 2003
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    Guy Smith Guest

    Having worked on these poxy cars for a few years now, I find the best way
    is to beat it mercilessly until it comes out. As already suggested, give it
    a spray with some sort of penetrating oil and then beat it some more!
    Good luck!

     
    Guy Smith, Jul 16, 2003
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    Duncan Wood Guest

    Ah now you're there. Support the hub with something non springy (unlike all
    the suspension linkages on the car, stick some thing soft (bit of copper,
    decent plywood whatever) on the end of the driveshaft & hit it hard.It goes
    back a lot easier.
     
    Duncan Wood, Jul 16, 2003
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