205 Catch 22 - the solution!

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I own a 205 XRDT, L reg, which has given no problems for the last few years. . . Famous last words! Yesterday, the drivers door lock jammed shut - I don't know if it's the barrel or the securing mechanism. I managed to get the trim off, but the rest is inaccessible inside the door frame.

To get the mechanism off, I have to open the door.
To open the door, I have to fix the lock.
To fix the lock, I have to get at it.
To get at it, I have to get the lock off.
To get the lock off, I have to open the door.
To open the door, I have to fix the lock.
To fix the . . . . AARGH!

Does anyone know how I can release the mechanism and/or open the door without involving a large angle grinder? If I do have to forcibly remove the barrel, how much damage is that likely to do?

Dave
 
Twas Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:40:04 +0100 when Dave
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I own a 205 XRDT, L reg, which has given no problems for the last few years. . . Famous last words! Yesterday, the drivers door lock jammed shut - I don't know if it's the barrel or the securing mechanism. I managed to get the trim off, but the rest is inaccessible inside the door frame.

To get the mechanism off, I have to open the door.
To open the door, I have to fix the lock.
To fix the lock, I have to get at it.
To get at it, I have to get the lock off.
To get the lock off, I have to open the door.
To open the door, I have to fix the lock.
...

I have no idea..
You could cut the door tops of and do a "dukes of hazard"?
 
"Dave" wrote:

I own a 205 XRDT, L reg, which has given no problems for the last few years. . . Famous last words! Yesterday, the drivers door lock jammed shut - I don't know if it's the barrel or the securing mechanism. I managed to get the trim off, but the rest is inaccessible inside the door frame.

To get the mechanism off, I have to open the door.
To open the door, I have to fix the lock.
To fix the lock, I have to get at it.
To get at it, I have to get the lock off.
To get the lock off, I have to open the door.
To open the door, I have to fix the lock.
...
Get your hands up in the door (if you have fat arms grab a kid off the street) and unhook the metal rod that connects the lock barrel to the pushy-downy-locky-button-thingy. Then get a BFO screwdriver and lever the locking plate off (this will probbaly spring off so watch it doesnt hit you). Then push lock barrel out and put a new one in. Job done

HTH

Carl
 
Park it somewhere in Manchester with a pound coin on the dash and some little prick will come along and opne the door for only a pound !!

"Dave" wrote:

I own a 205 XRDT, L reg, which has given no problems for the last few years. . . Famous last words! Yesterday, the drivers door lock jammed shut - I don't know if it's the barrel or the securing mechanism. I managed to get the trim off, but the rest is inaccessible inside the door frame.

To get the mechanism off, I have to open the door.
To open the door, I have to fix the lock.
To fix the lock, I have to get at it.
To get at it, I have to get the lock off.
To get the lock off, I have to open the door.
To open the door, I have to fix the lock.
...
 
In article <bcv1up$ngo7n$>,
says...
"Dave" wrote:

> I own a 205 XRDT, L reg, which has given no problems for the last few
> years. . . Famous last words!
> Yesterday, the drivers door lock jammed shut - I don't know if it's the
> barrel or the securing mechanism. I managed to get the trim off, but the
> rest is inaccessible inside the door frame.
>

snip

>
Get your hands up in the door (if you have fat arms grab a kid off the street) and unhook the metal rod that connects the lock barrel to the pushy-downy-locky-button-thingy. Then get a BFO screwdriver and lever the locking plate off (this will probbaly spring off so watch it doesnt hit you). Then push lock barrel out and put a new one in. Job done

HTH

Carl
Thanks, Carl. Now I can see how to remove the barrel, hopefully without damage. However, as I went out to the car yesterday, I used the door handle by habit, & it worked . . . Has worked fine ever since. I still don't know what caused it in the first place, though.

Dave
 
"Dave" wrote:

In article <bcv1up$ngo7n$>,
says...
>
> "Dave" wrote:
>
> > I own a 205 XRDT, L reg, which has given no problems for the last few
> > years. . . Famous last words!
> > Yesterday, the drivers door lock jammed shut - I don't know if it's
the
> > barrel or the securing mechanism. I managed to get the trim off, but
the
> > rest is inaccessible inside the door frame.
> >

snip

> >
> Get your hands up in the door (if you have fat arms grab a kid off the
> street) and unhook the metal rod that connects the lock barrel to the
> pushy-downy-locky-button-thingy. Then get a BFO screwdriver and lever
the
> locking plate off (this will probbaly spring off so watch it doesnt hit
> you). Then push lock barrel out and put a new one in. Job done
>
> HTH
>
> Carl
> --
> 205 XS (Rally car :))
> http://www.geocities.com/carl_gibbs21
>
>
>
...

LOL, always the way. At least you know how to fix it if it happens again!
 
In article <bd6lv1$ou034$>,
says...
"Dave" wrote:

> In article <bcv1up$ngo7n$>,
> says...
> >
> > "Dave" wrote:
> >
> > > I own a 205 XRDT, L reg, which has given no problems for the last few
> > > years. . . Famous last words!
> > > Yesterday, the drivers door lock jammed shut - I don't know if it's the
> > > barrel or the securing mechanism. I managed to get the trim off, but ...
Yes - take all the door trim off & wave a large screwdriver threateningly - scares it into submission.
Dave
 
Some time ago I posted a query about a 205 door lock jamming at irregular intervals. I eventually found the cause, if anyone's interested:

There is a lever on the back of the catch mechanism which is linked to the outside door handle by a length of wire. This lever occasionally sticks in the up position & refuses to drop back, which stops the other lever connected to the lock barrel from releasing the catch. Move this sticking lever back by hand, the lock works normally. Leave it, and sometimes it drops back by itself, sometimes it doesn't, depending (I suppose) on the time since the outer handle was used to lift it up & the amount of vibration shaking it back down.

Dave
 
I own a 205 XRDT, L reg, which has given no problems for the last few years. . . Famous last words! Yesterday, the drivers door lock jammed shut - I don't know if it's the barrel or the securing mechanism. I managed to get the trim off, but the rest is inaccessible inside the door frame.

I had the same prob and a squirt of WD40 cured it..dunno if it's the same problem with yours but worth a go!

sPoNiX
 
sPoNiX said:
I had the same prob and a squirt of WD40 cured it..dunno if it's the same problem with yours but worth a go!

sPoNiX

This is due to the outer lever not returning to its proper place. Its pivot has seized up. WD40 on the pivot pin will help if you can aimit straight.
 

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