Peugeot Expert Won't start

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Stew, Aug 11, 2007.

  1. Stew

    Stew Guest

    Hi, hope someone can help!! I have an Expert van, after a clutch was
    replaced - twice - the van wont start on its own. Now at a Peugeot gargage,
    they have changed the starter motor and ECU - still doesn't start and they
    wont a grand for the pleasure!!
     
    Stew, Aug 11, 2007
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  2. Stew wrote:
    > Hi, hope someone can help!! I have an Expert van, after a clutch was
    > replaced - twice - the van wont start on its own. Now at a Peugeot gargage,
    > they have changed the starter motor and ECU - still doesn't start and they
    > wont a grand for the pleasure!!
    >


    Let me get this right. You are going to give a garage £1000 for NOT
    fixing your van? Jeez there's one born every minute!
     
    Billy No Mates, Aug 11, 2007
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  3. Stew

    Chrs Guest

    i charge you £500 to just to look at it ahahahaha and i might be able
    to fix it ,
     
    Chrs, Aug 11, 2007
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  4. Stew

    Chrs Guest

    Cut off solenoid on top of the pump.
     
    Chrs, Aug 12, 2007
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  5. Stew

    Guest

    On Aug 11, 12:40 pm, "Stew" <u36556@uwe> wrote:
    > Hi, hope someone can help!! I have an Expert van, after a clutch was
    > replaced - twice - the van wont start on its own. Now at a Peugeot gargage,
    > they have changed the starter motor and ECU - still doesn't start and they
    > wont a grand for the pleasure!!


    Does the starter motor turn and the engine just not fire up or do you
    get nothing?
     
    , Aug 13, 2007
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  6. wrote:
    >> Hi, hope someone can help!! I have an Expert van, after a clutch was
    >> replaced - twice - the van wont start on its own. Now at a Peugeot gargage,
    >> they have changed the starter motor and ECU - still doesn't start and they
    >> wont a grand for the pleasure!!

    >
    >Does the starter motor turn and the engine just not fire up or do you
    >get nothing?


    New starter motor put on as they beleieved this was the problem. Engine
    starts on tow bump start and using 'quick start' spray - engine runs fine.
    Don't intend giving them any money for not curing the problem!!!

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    Stew via CarKB.com, Aug 13, 2007
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  7. Billy No Mates wrote:
    >> Hi, hope someone can help!! I have an Expert van, after a clutch was
    >> replaced - twice - the van wont start on its own. Now at a Peugeot gargage,
    >> they have changed the starter motor and ECU - still doesn't start and they
    >> wont a grand for the pleasure!!

    >
    >Let me get this right. You are going to give a garage £1000 for NOT
    >fixing your van? Jeez there's one born every minute!


    Yeah right, I wasn't born yesterday. No intention of paying - just wanted
    some ideas on how to get the van started before I go bankrupt with no van to
    use for work!!!

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    Stew via CarKB.com, Aug 13, 2007
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  8. Stew

    Chrs Guest

    Sounds like the pump is not giving your pots the diesel to keep it
    going, are you near Wimbledon?if so pop in a see Watson Diesels, or
    ring them on 02088793584-02088793861. they are very very helpful and
    have time to talk to you about the problem.
     
    Chrs, Aug 13, 2007
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  9. Stew

    Guest

    On Aug 13, 7:36 pm, "Stew via CarKB.com" <u36556@uwe> wrote:
    > wrote:
    > >> Hi, hope someone can help!! I have an Expert van, after a clutch was
    > >> replaced - twice - the van wont start on its own. Now at a Peugeot gargage,
    > >> they have changed the starter motor and ECU - still doesn't start and they
    > >> wont a grand for the pleasure!!

    >
    > >Does the starter motor turn and the engine just not fire up or do you
    > >get nothing?

    >
    > New starter motor put on as they beleieved this was the problem. Engine
    > starts on tow bump start and using 'quick start' spray - engine runs fine.
    > Don't intend giving them any money for not curing the problem!!!
    >
    > --
    > Message posted via CarKB.comhttp://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/peugeot/200708/1


    So, the engine isn't turning when they go to start it?

    Did they replace the clutch and then find it wouldn't start?
     
    , Aug 13, 2007
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    news:...
    > On Aug 13, 7:36 pm, "Stew via CarKB.com" <u36556@uwe> wrote:
    >> wrote:
    >> >> Hi, hope someone can help!! I have an Expert van, after a clutch was
    >> >> replaced - twice - the van wont start on its own. Now at a Peugeot
    >> >> gargage,
    >> >> they have changed the starter motor and ECU - still doesn't start and
    >> >> they
    >> >> wont a grand for the pleasure!!

    >>
    >> >Does the starter motor turn and the engine just not fire up or do you
    >> >get nothing?

    >>
    >> New starter motor put on as they beleieved this was the problem. Engine
    >> starts on tow bump start and using 'quick start' spray - engine runs
    >> fine.
    >> Don't intend giving them any money for not curing the problem!!!
    >>
    >> --
    >> Message posted via
    >> CarKB.comhttp://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/peugeot/200708/1

    >
    > So, the engine isn't turning when they go to start it?
    >
    > Did they replace the clutch and then find it wouldn't start?
    >


    Two thoughts. If the engine doesn't turn over with the starter, despite a
    new starter being fitted, the earth (or lack of it) could be the problem.
    If it is turning over then the heater plugs sound like a candidate as it
    apparently goes using spray.
    --
    Keith Willcocks
    (If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living!)
     
    Keith Willcocks, Aug 14, 2007
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  11. Stew

    Johno Guest

    In message <>, Keith Willcocks
    <> writes
    >
    ><> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >> On Aug 13, 7:36 pm, "Stew via CarKB.com" <u36556@uwe> wrote:
    >>> wrote:
    >>> >> Hi, hope someone can help!! I have an Expert van, after a clutch was
    >>> >> replaced - twice - the van wont start on its own. Now at a Peugeot
    >>> >> gargage,
    >>> >> they have changed the starter motor and ECU - still doesn't start and
    >>> >> they
    >>> >> wont a grand for the pleasure!!
    >>>
    >>> >Does the starter motor turn and the engine just not fire up or do you
    >>> >get nothing?
    >>>
    >>> New starter motor put on as they beleieved this was the problem. Engine
    >>> starts on tow bump start and using 'quick start' spray - engine runs
    >>> fine.
    >>> Don't intend giving them any money for not curing the problem!!!
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Message posted via
    >>> CarKB.comhttp://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/peugeot/200708/1

    >>
    >> So, the engine isn't turning when they go to start it?
    >>
    >> Did they replace the clutch and then find it wouldn't start?
    >>

    >
    >Two thoughts. If the engine doesn't turn over with the starter, despite a
    >new starter being fitted, the earth (or lack of it) could be the problem.
    >If it is turning over then the heater plugs sound like a candidate as it
    >apparently goes using spray.


    Another thought have you checked crank position sensor, it wont be the
    glow plugs cos HDI eng dont really need them except in really cold
    weather, it sounds to me a sensor to ecu problem , good luck anyway hope
    you get it sorted, regards John :)
     
    Johno, Aug 15, 2007
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  12. wrote:
    >> wrote:
    >> >> Hi, hope someone can help!! I have an Expert van, after a clutch was

    >[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
    >> --
    >> Message posted via CarKB.comhttp://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/peugeot/200708/1

    >
    >So, the engine isn't turning when they go to start it?
    >
    >Did they replace the clutch and then find it wouldn't start?

    Yep, had to take it back after they fitted the first clutch because of the
    juddering then when they replaced it - wouldn't start - think it might be the
    wrong sensor on the crank shaft - guess what that was changed by a Peugeot
    garage too!!

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    Stew via CarKB.com, Aug 16, 2007
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  13. Stew

    Chrs Guest

    when they removed the gearbox have they cut a cable some where? cant
    they get it up in the air so you and mechnic can have a good look?
     
    Chrs, Aug 16, 2007
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  14. Stew

    Guest

    On Aug 16, 8:30 pm, "Stew via CarKB.com" <u36556@uwe> wrote:
    > wrote:
    > >> wrote:
    > >> >> Hi, hope someone can help!! I have an Expert van, after a clutch was

    > >[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
    > >> --
    > >> Message posted via CarKB.comhttp://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/peugeot/200708/1

    >
    > >So, the engine isn't turning when they go to start it?

    >
    > >Did they replace the clutch and then find it wouldn't start?

    >
    > Yep, had to take it back after they fitted the first clutch because of the
    > juddering then when they replaced it - wouldn't start - think it might be the
    > wrong sensor on the crank shaft - guess what that was changed by a Peugeot
    > garage too!!


    Seems like a catalogue of errors. Just tell them you're going to
    Trading Standards. As far as I see it they are responsible for the
    problems and they should resolve them at their cost.
    I also suspect a cable problem caused when changing the clutch.

    Why do Peugeot dealers always end up changing the bloody ECU? And have
    they even changed it...hmmm.
    And all they needed to do was take the starter motor out and test it,
    not replace it. Either they're bullshitters or just incompetent
    trainees who have no clue apart from what their diagnostic machines
    tell them.
     
    , Aug 17, 2007
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