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Fuel pipes wear out on 206 1.4 hdi - due bad design flaw - fire hazard

 
Charlie+
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      05-02-2009
This problem on a 3+ year old Peugeot 206 1.4 hdi ~40,000 miles and relates
to the positioning of the low pressure hd rigid nylon diesel fuel pipes
laid loose in plastic lugs laid out in two channels on top of the engine
and under the airbox. It is possible for the rearmost of these pipes to
vibrate its way partially out of these lugs and for the lugs to wear a hole
in the nylon pipe.
This lets air into the fuel system prior to getting into the
high pressure fuel pump and eventually stops the car being able to supply
fuel to the engine and the car is immobile (cant even be primed). In
addition if the fuel tank attains a positive pressure at any time fuel
pours out all over the hot engine top and is a definite fire and explosive
hazard.
The pipes have it seems been redesigned with slightly thicker walls and a
variant layout and a replacement loom of pipes is available costing about
£55, cost of labour to replace is a variable depending on the mechanic.
Probably about 2 to 3 hours, and there is still no positive fixing of the
pipes into the lug channels... ie a very costly repair, especially if the
car is having to be recovered from immobile. No Peugeot main agent I tried
have any vehicle recovery facility - to my amazement.
The dealer I bought my replacement pipe loom from guessed that they had
replaced over 10 in tha last year alone. Ie this is a problem that all
these engines may have at some mileage. Do other Peugeot model diesels use
a similar badly fixed fuel pipe layout ???
This should warrant a general recall from Peugeot on the 206 1.4 hdi in my
opinion for the fire hazard safety considerations.
Charlie+
 
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Bob Minchin
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      05-02-2009
Charlie+ wrote:
> This problem on a 3+ year old Peugeot 206 1.4 hdi ~40,000 miles and relates
> to the positioning of the low pressure hd rigid nylon diesel fuel pipes
> laid loose in plastic lugs laid out in two channels on top of the engine
> and under the airbox. It is possible for the rearmost of these pipes to
> vibrate its way partially out of these lugs and for the lugs to wear a hole
> in the nylon pipe.
> This lets air into the fuel system prior to getting into the
> high pressure fuel pump and eventually stops the car being able to supply
> fuel to the engine and the car is immobile (cant even be primed). In
> addition if the fuel tank attains a positive pressure at any time fuel
> pours out all over the hot engine top and is a definite fire and explosive
> hazard.
> The pipes have it seems been redesigned with slightly thicker walls and a
> variant layout and a replacement loom of pipes is available costing about
> £55, cost of labour to replace is a variable depending on the mechanic.
> Probably about 2 to 3 hours, and there is still no positive fixing of the
> pipes into the lug channels... ie a very costly repair, especially if the
> car is having to be recovered from immobile. No Peugeot main agent I tried
> have any vehicle recovery facility - to my amazement.
> The dealer I bought my replacement pipe loom from guessed that they had
> replaced over 10 in tha last year alone. Ie this is a problem that all
> these engines may have at some mileage. Do other Peugeot model diesels use
> a similar badly fixed fuel pipe layout ???
> This should warrant a general recall from Peugeot on the 206 1.4 hdi in my
> opinion for the fire hazard safety considerations.
> Charlie+

Yes we read your diatribe last time you posted Charlie.

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      05-03-2009

"Charlie+" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> This problem on a 3+ year old Peugeot 206 1.4 hdi ~40,000 miles and
> relates
> to the positioning of the low pressure hd rigid nylon diesel fuel pipes
> laid loose in plastic lugs laid out in two channels on top of the engine
> and under the airbox. It is possible for the rearmost of these pipes to
> vibrate its way partially out of these lugs and for the lugs to wear a
> hole
> in the nylon pipe.
> This lets air into the fuel system prior to getting into the
> high pressure fuel pump and eventually stops the car being able to supply
> fuel to the engine and the car is immobile (cant even be primed). In
> addition if the fuel tank attains a positive pressure at any time fuel
> pours out all over the hot engine top and is a definite fire and explosive
> hazard.


Not with diesel it isn't.

Steve


 
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