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Red Forever
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      10-05-2006
When I try to start my 206 1.4 HDi nothing happens, the ignition light and
everything else come on but other than what sounds like a relay kicking in
there is nothing, even the solenoid doesn't make a sound. It diod this a
couple of weeks ago but after a few attempts it started but tonight i had to
push start it. it starts ok now but is bound to let me down again. Anyone
know what the problem is, the battery leads seem ok



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John Ricketts
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      10-06-2006
How do you know the leads are ok? when it has happened to me in the past, it
has generally been resolved by tapping/re-securing the connection to the
battery. On one other instance, I had trouble with an earth connection down
near the solenoid, and on another occasion, a sticky solenoid. With the
latter, a thump with a hammer generally released it (until some months later
I got around to replacing the starter).

"Red Forever" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> When I try to start my 206 1.4 HDi nothing happens, the ignition light and
> everything else come on but other than what sounds like a relay kicking in
> there is nothing, even the solenoid doesn't make a sound. It diod this a
> couple of weeks ago but after a few attempts it started but tonight i had
> to push start it. it starts ok now but is bound to let me down again.
> Anyone know what the problem is, the battery leads seem ok
>
>
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Michael Roche
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      10-06-2006
The best time to find this type of fault is when it is present else you are
testing for something that is not there,
Sounds like a poor connection or sticking solenoid in the starter.
Start by checking that all earth straps and the Peugeot battery patent
clamps are clean not corroded and making good contact.
Next time it happens switch on to full beam and then try to start the car.
IF the lights dim appreciably you either have a stuck solenoid or poor
contact in the battery live or earth wires.
Mike
"John Ricketts" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> How do you know the leads are ok? when it has happened to me in the past,

it
> has generally been resolved by tapping/re-securing the connection to the
> battery. On one other instance, I had trouble with an earth connection

down
> near the solenoid, and on another occasion, a sticky solenoid. With the
> latter, a thump with a hammer generally released it (until some months

later
> I got around to replacing the starter).
>
> "Red Forever" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:45257cfe$0$19719$(E-Mail Removed).. .
> > When I try to start my 206 1.4 HDi nothing happens, the ignition light

and
> > everything else come on but other than what sounds like a relay kicking

in
> > there is nothing, even the solenoid doesn't make a sound. It diod this a
> > couple of weeks ago but after a few attempts it started but tonight i

had
> > to push start it. it starts ok now but is bound to let me down again.
> > Anyone know what the problem is, the battery leads seem ok
> >
> >
> > --
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> >

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Red Forever
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      10-06-2006
Thanks for the replies. The battery leads are securely fixed and are clean
(at the battery end anyway). I did the thing with the lights but they didn't
go dim when I turned the key. The annoying thing is that the car starts
perfectly now after bump starting it. It did the same thing a few weeks ago
but after trying 7 or 8 times it suddenly turned over


"Michael Roche" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> The best time to find this type of fault is when it is present else you
> are
> testing for something that is not there,
> Sounds like a poor connection or sticking solenoid in the starter.
> Start by checking that all earth straps and the Peugeot battery patent
> clamps are clean not corroded and making good contact.
> Next time it happens switch on to full beam and then try to start the car.
> IF the lights dim appreciably you either have a stuck solenoid or poor
> contact in the battery live or earth wires.
> Mike
> "John Ricketts" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:yvmVg.84043$(E-Mail Removed) k...
>> How do you know the leads are ok? when it has happened to me in the past,

> it
>> has generally been resolved by tapping/re-securing the connection to the
>> battery. On one other instance, I had trouble with an earth connection

> down
>> near the solenoid, and on another occasion, a sticky solenoid. With the
>> latter, a thump with a hammer generally released it (until some months

> later
>> I got around to replacing the starter).
>>
>> "Red Forever" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:45257cfe$0$19719$(E-Mail Removed).. .
>> > When I try to start my 206 1.4 HDi nothing happens, the ignition light

> and
>> > everything else come on but other than what sounds like a relay kicking

> in
>> > there is nothing, even the solenoid doesn't make a sound. It diod this
>> > a
>> > couple of weeks ago but after a few attempts it started but tonight i

> had
>> > to push start it. it starts ok now but is bound to let me down again.
>> > Anyone know what the problem is, the battery leads seem ok
>> >
>> >
>> > --
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Fitzy
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      10-06-2006
Just a educated guess,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Sounds like your going to need a starter motor soon,,
Fitzy


Forever" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the replies. The battery leads are securely fixed and are clean
> (at the battery end anyway). I did the thing with the lights but they
> didn't go dim when I turned the key. The annoying thing is that the car
> starts perfectly now after bump starting it. It did the same thing a few
> weeks ago but after trying 7 or 8 times it suddenly turned over
>
>
> "Michael Roche" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> The best time to find this type of fault is when it is present else you
>> are
>> testing for something that is not there,
>> Sounds like a poor connection or sticking solenoid in the starter.
>> Start by checking that all earth straps and the Peugeot battery patent
>> clamps are clean not corroded and making good contact.
>> Next time it happens switch on to full beam and then try to start the
>> car.
>> IF the lights dim appreciably you either have a stuck solenoid or poor
>> contact in the battery live or earth wires.
>> Mike
>> "John Ricketts" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:yvmVg.84043$(E-Mail Removed) k...
>>> How do you know the leads are ok? when it has happened to me in the
>>> past,

>> it
>>> has generally been resolved by tapping/re-securing the connection to the
>>> battery. On one other instance, I had trouble with an earth connection

>> down
>>> near the solenoid, and on another occasion, a sticky solenoid. With the
>>> latter, a thump with a hammer generally released it (until some months

>> later
>>> I got around to replacing the starter).
>>>
>>> "Red Forever" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:45257cfe$0$19719$(E-Mail Removed).. .
>>> > When I try to start my 206 1.4 HDi nothing happens, the ignition light

>> and
>>> > everything else come on but other than what sounds like a relay
>>> > kicking

>> in
>>> > there is nothing, even the solenoid doesn't make a sound. It diod this
>>> > a
>>> > couple of weeks ago but after a few attempts it started but tonight i

>> had
>>> > to push start it. it starts ok now but is bound to let me down again.
>>> > Anyone know what the problem is, the battery leads seem ok
>>> >
>>> >
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Robin Bendall
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      10-06-2006

"Fitzy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Just a educated guess,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
> Sounds like your going to need a starter motor soon,,
> Fitzy
>
>
> Forever" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> Thanks for the replies. The battery leads are securely fixed and are
>> clean (at the battery end anyway). I did the thing with the lights but
>> they didn't go dim when I turned the key. The annoying thing is that the
>> car starts perfectly now after bump starting it. It did the same thing a
>> few weeks ago but after trying 7 or 8 times it suddenly turned over
>>

If the lights don't dim then current is not going through the starter for
one of various reasons. Burnt out armature winding, worn brushes not making
contact, solenoid not making contact, a broken lead between battery and
starter, pre-engaged fork not operating etc. etc.


 
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Red Forever
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      10-07-2006

"> If the lights don't dim then current is not going through the starter for
> one of various reasons. Burnt out armature winding, worn brushes not
> making contact, solenoid not making contact, a broken lead between battery
> and starter, pre-engaged fork not operating etc. etc.

Thanks for the help, I've just had it checked over and it seems to be the
starter. Oh well, more expense.
Cheers



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Chris
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      10-07-2006
Red Forever wrote:
> "> If the lights don't dim then current is not going through the starter for
>> one of various reasons. Burnt out armature winding, worn brushes not
>> making contact, solenoid not making contact, a broken lead between battery
>> and starter, pre-engaged fork not operating etc. etc.

> Thanks for the help, I've just had it checked over and it seems to be the
> starter. Oh well, more expense.
> Cheers
>
>
>

Ring round different shops that sell car parts. you will be saving money
by doing that.
 
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Fitzy
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      10-07-2006


"Chris" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Red Forever wrote:
>> "> If the lights don't dim then current is not going through the starter
>> for
>>> one of various reasons. Burnt out armature winding, worn brushes not
>>> making contact, solenoid not making contact, a broken lead between
>>> battery and starter, pre-engaged fork not operating etc. etc.

>> Thanks for the help, I've just had it checked over and it seems to be the
>> starter. Oh well, more expense.
>> Cheers

> Ring round different shops that sell car parts. you will be saving money
> by doing that.


Probably looking at £30 repair, or £70 replacement.
??what about eBay ??
Fitzy


 
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      10-07-2006

"Fitzy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Chris" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> Red Forever wrote:
>>> "> If the lights don't dim then current is not going through the starter
>>> for
>>>> one of various reasons. Burnt out armature winding, worn brushes not
>>>> making contact, solenoid not making contact, a broken lead between
>>>> battery and starter, pre-engaged fork not operating etc. etc.
>>> Thanks for the help, I've just had it checked over and it seems to be
>>> the starter. Oh well, more expense.
>>> Cheers

>> Ring round different shops that sell car parts. you will be saving money
>> by doing that.

>
> Probably looking at £30 repair, or £70 replacement.
> ??what about eBay ??
> Fitzy


I need it doing really quick though and it looks like I'm going to have to
pay handsomely for the privelage. Sod's law though that I'll have the
starter replaced and in a few weeks time the f***er will break down again.



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